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Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:41 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
Hello all, I am currently shooting with a BMCC, Nikon Wide Angle Lense (AF-S Zoom Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G ED AF Lens). I was using 800 iso, 180 shutter, but did not know which was a preferred white balance.

I am shooting prores. I am having a very hard time with everything looking green even after a considerable amount of grading. Tips? Settings?

Steve

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:56 pm
by Abobakr M. Alshiblie
at early morning or late afternoon, would be at about 4500°K.. but you might want to raise it to 5000°K to get a shot a little warmer, if that what you want to do.. at average noon, it is about 5600°K. An overcast day is about 6000°K. A summer daylight would be about 6500°K

but it is better you go outside and test these settings and find what's suitable for you

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:58 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
thank you, so less light lower white balance would be a good primer?

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:06 pm
by Marshall Harrington
If you are shooting raw it really doesn't matter as you can completely adjust down the road in DaVinci. That's the beauty of the whole thing.

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:08 pm
by Abobakr M. Alshiblie
To put it simpler.. the cooler the light in the scene, the higher the number the degree kelvin you dail in.. the warmer the light in the scene the lower the degree kelvin you dial in.. for example a sunrise or a sunset light is a little warmer, so the degree kelvin would be about 3200°K. an overcast daylight is a little cooler so it would be about 6000°K

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:11 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
not shooting in raw, all my macs bought within the last year do not work with davinci (mbp, mba, mini server) due to graphic card. I am not buying another computer but I am considering AE right now. However since I am a hobbyist and using this for family videos also. With all that said I will be shooting prores unless I find I am totally not able to grade proper.

So in essence, you use a higher white balance to "balance" a cooler shot, or warmer up a shot

thanks for the easy explanation.

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:22 pm
by Abobakr M. Alshiblie
Steve DiMaggio wrote:So in essence, you use a higher white balance to "balance" a cooler shot, or warmer up a shot
.


exactly

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:26 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
thanks! 8-)

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:52 pm
by Darryl Gregory
Hey Steve this may help you understand Kelvin color temps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:24 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
thanks guys I just did a bit of tests outside before it started raining, much better, thanks again

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:08 pm
by Dmitry Kitsov
Steve DiMaggio wrote:Hello all, I am currently shooting with a BMCC, Nikon Wide Angle Lense (AF-S Zoom Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G ED AF Lens). I was using 800 iso, 180 shutter, but did not know which was a preferred white balance.

I am shooting prores. I am having a very hard time with everything looking green even after a considerable amount of grading. Tips? Settings?

Steve

Steve, is there a possibility that your monitor is not well calibrated/profiled? I do not see a reason for everything being very green after a considerable amount if grading other than that.

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:31 pm
by Steve DiMaggio
truth be told, my backyard is extremely green, also it was overcast. After bumping up my WB I had good results today. I use my mbp monitor so there is a high possibility that I am editing off of something that is not accurate.

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:21 am
by rick.lang
Steve DiMaggio wrote:truth be told, my backyard is extremely green, also it was overcast. After bumping up my WB I had good results today. I use my mbp monitor so there is a high possibility that I am editing off of something that is not accurate.


Ironically, the iPad retina screen is Apple's best screen for colour fidelity... And I use it rather than the iMac for judging colour.

Rick Lang
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Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:28 am
by Steve DiMaggio
I would in in a heart beat use it as a real time monitor if possible, I know it has been discussed

Re: Suggested White Balance for Shooting Outdoors

PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:04 am
by rick.lang
Steve DiMaggio wrote:I would in in a heart beat use it as a real time monitor if possible, I know it has been discussed


It is possible. See the Teradek Cube. Just bring money, lots of money.

Rick Lang
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