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how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:59 am
by Antonio Rosiello
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:14 am
by Christian Schmeer
Was this shot in RAW? If so, could you please post a DNG?
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:06 am
by Antonio Rosiello
i tried it says it's too heavy, how do you usually load it?
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:04 am
by Antonio Rosiello
https://copy.com/8GhCaQEjkzYChere's the dng
if you guys can give me an advice on how to make this stuff usuable and "hide" a little bit that hot spots problems...tnx
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:29 am
by Christian Schmeer
The shot was severely underexposed and was shot using the wrong white balance. Since it's only one frame of the shot, I quickly tried a fix in Camera RAW / Photoshop. Some temperature adjustments, exposure, highlight and contrast adjustments, got rid of "colour noise" and then ran the Dust & Scratches filter in Photoshop to get rid of the white/stuck pixels (luminescence noise reduction was too harsh, makes everything too soft).
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1694/q3tv.jpg
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:30 am
by Gabe Darvas
I think it's very hard for us outsiders, to correct your image, because we don't know its context. So it can happen, that knowing the context I would leave the images as is right now in your original version. But it can happen also that I would change it to something better looking. The answers are in the story you want to tell.
Cinema and great cinematography is not about technically perfect images foremost. First and foremost images are to tell a story, to convey an atmosphere, technological excellence comes only after that.
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:34 am
by Christian Schmeer
As the therussian2 mentioned, how you may want to correct the image is subjective and depends on your intention. For example if I would have left the temperature much warmer, almost as it was, the footage would have had a completely different mood. Since you asked for a "clean up" suggestion, my correction above is merely an example of what could be done with the RAW file to get it more technically accurate.
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:51 pm
by sean mclennan
Frankly, this image is so underexposed, I think it's not worth using at full frame, HD output. If you do something creative, like put it in a small container or something where you can shrink the clips size, it might work. The amount of noise once you bring up the exposure is just horrendous. I used to have really good de-noising software, but I haven't used it in a long time. Maybe that would work, but for the amount of noise in this shot, you would soften the image up dramatically.
This is my tweak.

That's ******* that happened. I feel for you. Hopefully, you don't have a lot of footage like that

Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:37 pm
by Diego Gonzalez
I thought i'd give it a try, here's my attempt.

Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:52 pm
by Will Tejeda
I dont think it's too bad, though there is a good amount of noise
But perhaps using neatvideo or resolve , you could tone it down a bit more. just to the point of it being a bit more usable.
This was a quick attempt in CameraRAW.
I think the main thing is white balance, but besides that I think it doesnt look to bad for what it is ; a Quick candid behind the scenes type clip (I assume)
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:01 pm
by Antonio Rosiello
the problem was that i left the camera in the wrong hands, somebody who never ever used it.
now i got many minutes of this, I have to fix it some way. I'm not so good in post work, my goal is to make this usuable.
pacman829 wrote:a Quick candid behind the scenes type clip (I assume)
yes ....
Can you please just tell me more or less what your workflow would be to fix this?
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:04 pm
by Christian Schmeer
boukmanmutt wrote:Can you please just tell me more or less how would you fix this?
That depends on the software you're using for your RAW footage post workflow. Is it Resolve? Lightroom? Camera RAW? Something else?
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:08 pm
by Antonio Rosiello
I usually go with resolve, but maybe here I'd need to use camera raw?
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:13 pm
by Christian Schmeer
boukmanmutt wrote:I usually go with resolve, but maybe here I'd need to use camera raw?
In Resolve, load the shot in a new project, and adjust the exposure and white balance in the "Camera RAW" tab of the project settings. You could then try Resolve's noise reduction feature, but it may make the footage too soft. The alternative would be loading all DNG frames from the shot into Adobe Lightroom, correcting one of the frames to taste, and syncing it over the other frames. This may also be possible with Adobe Bridge and Camera RAW, not sure though. Automating a batch "Despeckle" filter on all frames could be done with Photoshop action scripts.
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:43 pm
by Antonio Rosiello
Ok, the only acceptable solution I found is to change Radius, fixing white balance (but still leaving that yellow look, or the image gets too de saturated)...still i don't find a way for the colors to get brighter but that would be a miracle.
This camera as such an amizing look that the grain is acceptable, radius helps me to "hide" the spots.
Re: how do i clean up this mess?

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Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:02 pm
by Antonio Rosiello
btw I couldn't add no lut, the footage would be even worst