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Please join us for a live stream update on new developments in cameras! Live stream starts at Los Angeles 9 AM PDT, New York 12 PM EDT, London 5 PM BST on the 16th of July, and Singapore 12 AM SGT, Tokyo 1 AM JST, Sydney 2 AM AEST on the 17th of July.

will be very excited after canon r5.

There goes my evening with the family tomorrow...
I wonder if I can make my 5.5 years old daughter interested in watching a presentation in a language she doesn't understand about a topic she doesn't care? Maybe if Grant does put some Elsa & Anna stickers onto the new camera(s)?

I can laugh about this announcement because I was going to purchase to 6K cameras today. I can wait until tomorrow now.

pulalis wrote:Please join us for a live stream update on new developments in cameras! Live stream starts at Los Angeles 9 AM PDT, New York 12 PM EDT, London 5 PM BST on the 16th of July, and Singapore 12 AM SGT, Tokyo 1 AM JST, Sydney 2 AM AEST on the 17th of July.

Nothing too special guys, its just some firmware for some of the cameras. My source told me.

Akpe Ododoru wrote:Nothing too special guys, its just some firmware for some of the cameras. My source told me.

Ah, it's not the Blackmagic Design Micro Ursa Mini 16K Mark I, then?

Very curious about this . Ursa FF 8K maybe ?

Maybe they're replacing the Pocket 4K. Everyone has them out of stock.

The new Resolve update says:
Support for Blackmagic RAW 1.8 has also been added.

That may be what the announcement is. I have no idea what the current version of BRAW is on our cameras. If I had to guess, I would say 1.7.

Akpe Ododoru wrote:

pulalis wrote:Please join us for a live stream update on new developments in cameras! Live stream starts at Los Angeles 9 AM PDT, New York 12 PM EDT, London 5 PM BST on the 16th of July, and Singapore 12 AM SGT, Tokyo 1 AM JST, Sydney 2 AM AEST on the 17th of July.

Nothing too special guys, its just some firmware for some of the cameras. My source told me.

Was this the same source as "Blackmagic Pocket Ursa cinema camera 6k/8k" you mentioned before? Good source you have. The best

My guess is a new URSA Mini Pro with a next generation 6k APS-C sensor, still a rolling shutter but with a very fast read-out like the 4.6k Gen 2. A bit higher DR like 16.5 stops, improved BRAW 2.0, CFexpress card slots, 150 fps in full 6k and 300 fps in 2.8k crop mode. 4 channel audio. Firmware 7

Enabled accelerometer/position sensor with meta data support for VFX (like for post stabilization).
Vastly improved AF plus object tracking AF through neural processor.
Support for wireless video previewing.

EDIT:
And a larger LCD like on the original UM46k but with increased brightness like from the VideoAssist.

MrHotter wrote:The new Resolve update says:
Support for Blackmagic RAW 1.8 has also been added.

That may be what the announcement is. I have no idea what the current version of BRAW is on our cameras. If I had to guess, I would say 1.7.

Blackmagic RAW 1.8 went up on the website today already and adds support for Sigma fp clips captured by Video Assist 12G HDR

So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

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"Camera update" sound more like firmware update for an existing camera. Maybe turn BMPCC4K to a webcam via USB connection?
Or perhaps Braw for original UM 4.6k. Maybe they're enabling global shutter as originally promised

P6k with 36x24 sensor.........

Color Science Gen 5?

WahWay wrote:"Camera update" sound more like firmware update for an existing camera. Maybe turn BMPCC4K to a webcam via USB connection?
Or perhaps Braw for original UM 4.6k. Maybe they're enabling global shutter as originally promised

Could also be an update on the product line :p It could be anything.

If they make a new camera, I highly hope they'll bring back the gyro thing they planned to put in the 4.6k originally, could be very useful for VFX and camera tracking.

Robert Niessner wrote:There goes my evening with the family tomorrow...
I wonder if I can make my 5.5 years old daughter interested in watching a presentation in a language she doesn't understand about a topic she doesn't care? Maybe if Grant does put some Elsa & Anna stickers onto the new camera(s)?

haha, same! I've had to convince my toddlers that "Daddy needs to watch this right now," before.

Hopefully they will announce a new Micro Cinema Camera to compete against the Zcam e2. Blackmagic has the image quality now they need the form factor.

Dmitry Shijan wrote:Color Science Gen 5?

+1


What would you guys preffer: a new camera or a new firmware adding some new cool features?
I think I would go with the new firmware option...

I'm still content with my Ursa Mini Pro G1.
Until it goes caput, I feel no desire to move to another body.

What i'm saving for is lensing, specifically Anamorphic.
I have great still lenses, a decent all-purpose zoom, and some fun crappy lenses to play with.

BMPCC4K to get 4k/120fps for 20 minutes before it overheat

The return of cDNG -

Oh boy if this is a major braw firmware update for the p4k I will be STOKKEDDD!!! But who knows, could be a response to the a7s3 and r5, new product announcements maybe? All I hope is that bm finally adds a decent ir cut filter inside their cameras, no need for 300 dollars heliopan filters no more.

We need more lens mount options. It has been proven that the MFT mount is good option for Super 35mm sensors. Imagine a Fujinon MK lens on the Ursa Mini...Perfect balance for shoulder-mount applications.

Ulysses Paiva wrote:

Dmitry Shijan wrote:Color Science Gen 5?

+1
What would you guys preffer: a new camera or a new firmware adding some new cool features?
I think I would go with the new firmware option...

It depends...Do you already have the camera?

MelFeliciano wrote:

Ulysses Paiva wrote:

Dmitry Shijan wrote:Color Science Gen 5?

+1
What would you guys preffer: a new camera or a new firmware adding some new cool features?
I think I would go with the new firmware option...

It depends...Do you already have the camera?

No. I'm here in this forum just because I find BMD cameras pretty and sexy. And Grant is a piece of bread too. And it just makes sense to preffer a firmware update for a camera I dont have than crave for a new camera release.

MelFeliciano wrote:

Ulysses Paiva wrote:

Dmitry Shijan wrote:Color Science Gen 5?

+1
What would you guys preffer: a new camera or a new firmware adding some new cool features?
I think I would go with the new firmware option...

It depends...Do you already have the camera?

My preference are
1. New firmware adding new features for narrative work on the BMPCC 6K and UMP G2 4.6K.
2. Resolve 7

Ellory Yu wrote:My preference are
1. New firmware adding new features for narrative work on the BMPCC 6K and UMP G2 4.6K.
2. Resolve 7

Why did you ruled the P4K out??? Stop being prejudiced. Thats not fair with the less Ks privileged.

CaptainHook wrote:

MrHotter wrote:The new Resolve update says:
Support for Blackmagic RAW 1.8 has also been added.

That may be what the announcement is. I have no idea what the current version of BRAW is on our cameras. If I had to guess, I would say 1.7.

Blackmagic RAW 1.8 went up on the website today already and adds support for Sigma fp clips captured by Video Assist 12G HDR

Cool! Any idea when VA will be updated to control cameras?

Wouldn't it be great if the update was enabling the internal quantum flux capacitor. So we would never miss a shot and always recorded the best take flawlessly.

Lots of people saying new firmware. What specifically would you like to see updated with existing cameras?

Robert Niessner wrote:So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

I’ll try to guess what he would say.....

This is one that’s worth making the time to watch....

JB

John Brawley wrote:

Robert Niessner wrote:So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

I’ll try to guess what he would say.....

This is one that’s worth making the time to watch....

JB

Jeez. I was taking that lightly. Now I just cant anymore. Damn it! Probably will make some popcorn and watch delightfully after JB's hint.

I really want 4k 120 fps in P4K, I do not care if its limited. I want it. I know it is possible. Yes.

Well the URSA Mini Pro G2 is long overdue for an update. So definitely Firmware Update for the UMPG2. This includes the preset 1:1 and 4:5 frame guides and the custom frame guides. Maybe the pinch to zoom up to 8X. Those are the two major things that the Pockets have the UMPG2 doesn't. The UMPG1 got the frame guides updates.

Beyond that my guess is as good as yours. I'm still hoping for the original URSA Mini 4.6K to get BRAW and Color Science 4. That would make it worth having kept it. And, I was recently told to keep it and to buy a Pocket 6K instead of doing a trade in by someone close... so maybe a hint. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, but it does make me wonder...

Either way, I think if there is any new cameras it is likely the Micro camera may finally get a 4K or 6K update. Either the Pocket 4K or Pocket 6K sensor in the Micro body with the Micro body having a few changes and updates. Those Micros were really cool and I'd definitely use one to achieve certain shots.

I doubt the Pocket 6K will be replaced by a new Pocket because it's less than a year old. But you never know, and they could do a Pocket 8K to all our surprises since everyone seems obsessed with 8K.

URSA Mini 8K? It's possible, and would likely be Super 35mm Sensor Size based on previously statements from Hook about difficulties with larger sensors for QC. The URSA Mini Pro G2 is only a year and a half old at this point, but got very few firmware updates. So maybe just firmware updates and a tease on what they're developing regarding the next generation.

Personally I'd love for them to announce an OLPF that they've built. Maybe a new Viewfinder.

Nonetheless, I'm very excited to hear what they announce.

Do I need to have my money ready for pre-order?

All I care about is:
- new color science
- new camera with box form factor (updated Micro w/4k 60fps? Pocket level? Ursa level?!?!?!)

Other than that, my Pocket 4K is the best deal on the planet.

I am with you Que...
Cheers

John Brawley wrote:

Robert Niessner wrote:So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

I’ll try to guess what he would say.....

This is one that’s worth making the time to watch....

Great - so you think that statement will make me sleep better this night?
Now I am even more curious than ever what we will get shown tomorrow.

Robert Niessner wrote:

John Brawley wrote:

Robert Niessner wrote:So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

I’ll try to guess what he would say.....

This is one that’s worth making the time to watch....

Great - so you think that statement will make me sleep better this night?
Now I am even more curious than ever what we will get shown tomorrow.

I'm also suffering from insomnia this last week. My sleep cycle is all kinds of messed up. So this isn't going to help me sleep either. And, my excitement is starting to reach a critical mass. Why? Because I only have 2K left to pay off on the Steadicam and I have credit card room to make purchases. Oy! My wallet is going to hate me.

Robert Niessner wrote:

John Brawley wrote:

Robert Niessner wrote:So CaptainHook - wanna join the guess game what's coming up?

Great - so you think that statement will make me sleep better this night?
Now I am even more curious than ever what we will get shown tomorrow.

Are you familiar with what some in the Southern Hemisphere call Christmas in July ?

JB

John Brawley wrote:Are you familiar with what some in the Southern Hemisphere call Christmas in July ?

LOL, Blackmagic NYC Wyndham event in 2015 around the same week was Christmas in July for me seeing the URSA 4.6K and Jody Eldred's demo.

My wish is a 4K, small-box form factor camera with m43 mount. I wouldn't complain if BM could squeeze out another stop of dynamic range.

Basically, an updated BMCC, or the P4K without the P. Call it the ""BMCC4K" or the "B4K".

If we're talking firmware updates, I really hope that BM enables the telemetry hardware that is already present in existing cameras and updates Resolve to take advantage of it for stabilization, tracking, etc.

John Brawley wrote:

Robert Niessner wrote:Great - so you think that statement will make me sleep better this night?
Now I am even more curious than ever what we will get shown tomorrow.

Are you familiar with what some in the Southern Hemisphere call Christmas in July ?

JB

Well my birthday was on Monday, so I'll call this a late birthday present.

You know I’m excited about ANY update or ANY new product. It’s all good for me even if I’m not able to take advantage of a new product...

Of course BRAW everywhere would be nice so the original URSA Mini 4.6K camera raw would be the same codec as the BMPCC4K.

A piece of cake might be better integration of the BMPCC4K and the BMVA12G7 such as enabling the BMVA12G7 to record BRAW from the BMPCC4K or the BMVA12G7 control the BMPCC4K. The whipped cream would be an automated match of the ‘colour’ of both screens on camera and monitor/recorder. The cherry on top would have that colour quality more accurate (not talking reference monitor grade, better than current screens that have colour shifts).

Resolve 17 must be coming soon at least as a public beta.

Old news. We already know about the pocket 16k imax ursa mini

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116108&p=639705&hilit=IMAX+ursa#p639705

Well... I hope its a new BMPCC?K with tougher/better made ports and 2x m2 memory modules... Just saying...

John Brawley wrote:Are you familiar with what some in the Southern Hemisphere call Christmas in July ?

JB

Damn!

joe12south wrote:My wish is a 4K, small-box form factor camera with m43 mount.

Oh man, no erector sets, please. Ask me, and the ideal low cost camera is one which delivers HD at higher quality/DR than ever before, and with what's becoming stock features on cameras of commensurate size: VFW, IBIS, articulated screen, AF tracking, etc.

In other words, a first or second generation m43 Alexa, in a DSLR form factor. And they'd probably sell 15 of them because, like, I gotta 8K future proof all the movies I'll never make, and so what if nearly all the cinema classics were shot with a horizontal of 21mm or less, I need 36mm.