Pocket cinema camera 4K and Gen5 color science

I have been playing with the bmpcc4k BRAW file in resolve 17 and find the new gen5 color science is really good.
In BMPCC4K I have set the dynamic range to VIDEO instead of film. Upon import into Resolve 17 I would go to the color page in the camera tab. And change the colors science to gen5. I find the highlight roll off a massive improvement when compared to gen4. Is there a way to get a preview of the gen5 colors science in camera so that we can see how gen5 render in camera.

I find it much easier to use the VIDEO dynamic range as a starting point to color grade as the contrast and saturation seem more natural and you can still manipulate the file anyway you like as it’s still A Raw video. Is this a correct assumption. Hope some one can chime in.

I do hope that black magic would update the bmpcc4k and 6k to gen5 colors science I think that would make the camera colors even better.

Settting the dynamic range to film just give you less saturated and less contrasty video to start with and you would still have to add contrast and Saturation in resolve. In my noob test I find it easier instead to start with a standard contrast of rec709 then dial down the saturation or contrast as needed as the BRAW is still a raw file after all. Am I correct to assume that

Hope the more experience experts in this forum would chime in

Cheers

I'm really hoping this too - it's find changing to gen5 in post, but it's extra steps during filming and extra steps in post.

As for viewing with VIDEO - I think that's what most people do, or at least with a LUT that brings what you see on the camera closer to what the end result will be.

I tend to use Extended Video. We have different perspectives though as some people want the camera to give them an image that needs no adjustments in post. I look upon the camera footage as just an excuse to get to Colour correct to my taste in post. Once you get into the colour correction, it can unleash your creativity beyond what the camera can give you.

Any idea when the firmware is coming to add color science 5 to BMPCC4K?

I’d it’s going to happen, it may be part of the Camera Setup update 7.1. That could coincide with some of the beta software becoming general release.

Isn't 7.2 already out with no changes to the P4K?

I was really hoping for in-camera Gen5, as well as Q3 and 48p project fps coming soon. Though, nothing has happened yet and I'm pretty certain it never will.

I'm more looking forward to having Gen5 added to the Color Space Transform in Resolve.

How will Gen5 will improve BRAW capture in any way? Isn't the essential benefit in turning it on in processing?

It won't improve capture, but is one less step in post. A lot of people seem to be against having gen5 in camera, and I don't really understand why.

Yes you can turn gen5 on/off in post - Same with the audio track, but it'd be weird not having options to record audio in camera.

I'm more looking forward to having Gen5 added to the Color Space Transform in Resolve.

my goodness yes! i've been waiting for this since i started playing around with Gen5.
it would help out a lot.

Setup braw interpolation gen5 default in preferences.


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UPDATE: Gen 5 colour science coming to BMPCC4K in the upcoming 7.3 camera update.

UPDATE: Gen 5 colour science coming to BMPCC4K in the upcoming 7.3 camera update.

Now that it's out, what does it mean? As far as I'm aware gen 5 is just a new color profile that's flatter and fixes some issues with red clipping in some extent. Why do I need it into my P4K and not just use it in Resolve?

Why do I need it into my P4K and not just use it in Resolve?

If you shoot ProRes in-camera ?

JB

Why do I need it into my P4K and not just use it in Resolve?

If you shoot ProRes in-camera ?

JB

Oh, I didn't think about that, my bad. I heard a rumour that gen 5 introduces better debayer algorithm, is this false? If it's true, does it affect braw?

Oh, I didn't think about that, my bad. I heard a rumour that gen 5 introduces better debayer algorithm, is this false? If it's true, does it affect braw?

Not that I’m aware.

JB