jallen0 wrote:Phil999 wrote:John Brawley wrote:Are you joking ?
JB
not at all. It was just a general opinion of mine, but I understand the contraints and conditions you are working. Sorry about that.
The "constraints and conditions" he is working under should be the exact same "constraints and conditions" that everyone should be working under during the time of Covid.
Getting the vaccine protects you...wearing a mask protects others.
As someone who got his second shot a month ago, I think that your claim that I should wear a mask to "protect others" rests on a very shaky foundation. In any event, we should know very soon, probably from Israeli and U.K. data, how much validity there is to the hypothesis that people who are vaccinated may be contagious.
I think that there's an emerging divide between people who have been vaccinated and those who haven't. Witness the increasing discussion about "Vaccine Passports", especially discussion about domestic use, which is already a fact in Israel. I am probably not alone in believing that I continue to abide by the "rules" more out of social solidarity than a sense of personal or social need. People who have been vaccinated are not going to abide by them, absent coherent reasons, indefinitely.
Indeed, In the U.S. the C.D.C. knows this. It intends, in the next couple of days, to issue special guidelines for people who have been vaccinated. It is apparently well aware of the fact that those people will not accept the current "rules". There is even real world evidence of this. Last week, the U.K. Government issued a report showing that people who have had a single shot, let alone two, are breaking the "rules", despite knowing that they are committing what is, in the U.K., an offence.
None of the foregoing should be taken as disagreement with the protocol that John Brawley discussed, a protocol that I think is necessary when people of varying or unknown status are working together. Create a team made up of people who have been vaccinated, or who have been reliably tested, once fast, accurate testing is a practical reality, and my view is quite different.