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Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostFri Oct 04, 2013 5:57 pm

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone uses the Lilliput 7" 663/S monitor that has an HD-SDI input? I'm wondering if it's worth the extra £200 over the same monitor with HDMI, as I have a cheap HDMI to SDI adapter that seems to work fine with my BMCC and Samsung HDTV.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Oct 05, 2013 11:19 am

Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Oct 05, 2013 11:57 am

Eddie thank you very much for the information.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Oct 05, 2013 2:49 pm

Eddie Wee wrote:Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.





Losing how ?
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Oct 05, 2013 4:13 pm

Right, that sounds like it's not the way to go then :lol: Eddie, would the Lilliput 7" 663 with HDMI only + an HDMI to HD-SDI adapter be fine?
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Oct 05, 2013 10:42 pm

I have been using one of these monitors for a month now on my BMCC and so far no problem at all.

I chose it over an HDMI-only monitor because of the fragile nature of HDMI plugs. I also didn't want to have to manage another device if I needed a converter.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostMon Oct 07, 2013 4:51 am

Eddie Wee wrote:Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.

Eddie, sounds ominous. Do you mean damage could be caused to the BMCC, or that the connection might simply fail to display on the Lilliput?
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostMon Oct 07, 2013 12:09 pm

Hello everyone, i'm new here, this is my first post.

I've got the 3G-HDSI version of this monitor and it works just fine with my Blackmagic Cinema Camera (EF). I chose this version over HDMI only cause I read some comments on other forums of people having problems with Liliput monitors and HDMI converters solutions. So I didn't want to take the risk.

On the first shooting I did with this combination, I lost the signal a couple of times, but at the end I realized I we didn't plug the cable properly... After that, no more signal lost for us. So, for me is a great monitor with a very nice resolution. I absolutely recommend it.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostMon Oct 07, 2013 3:25 pm

The damage is caused to the SDI output of BMCC. Have to replace the main PCB board.
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PostMon Oct 07, 2013 7:13 pm

Hi, do you said that "lilliput 7 inch" can damage the HD SDI... do you mean "lilliput 663 S" damage SDI or some models of "lilliput 7 inch HD SDI" damage BMCC SDI? Anyway you saided there is a lot of problem report in Asia can you precise with wich model of monitor? and is the monitor faulty or is the cam faulty... thank's for the precisions and sorry for my bad english, I'm French guy...
Eddie Wee wrote:The damage is caused to the SDI output of BMCC. Have to replace the main PCB board.
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PostMon Oct 07, 2013 8:45 pm

I would also like to know if the Lilliput 663/O/P with HDMI only + an HDMI to HD-SDI converter would still be an issue or if it's just the SDI output of the 663/S that causes a fault?
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Dec 28, 2013 2:43 pm

Eddie,
I am still not gettin' this.
Lillput 663/s causing damage to SDI output of BMCC? How this can be possible?
Sorry Eddie but your argument isn't clear enough, can you please explain the basic facts.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Dec 28, 2013 6:07 pm

Kwan wrote:Eddie,
I am still not gettin' this.
Lillput 663/s causing damage to SDI output of BMCC? How this can be possible?
Sorry Eddie but your argument isn't clear enough, can you please explain the basic facts.


I agree. I just ordered a 665GL w/SDI and would like to know if I run the risk of damaging my camera. What models of Lilliput monitors do this? What is the nature of the damage exactly? Are these incidental reports or are they confirmed?

If BMD knows a particular monitor may cause damage to the camera, I'd think it would be their responsibility to make this a sticky and distribute the information via email to all their registered customers.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Dec 28, 2013 6:40 pm

SDI port burn is a known problem using BMCC and other accessories. I doubt it's the Liliput fault, no matter what the manufactor is - the BMCC SDI port will burn in a couple of months.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12008&p=78659&hilit=funny+sdi#p78659
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Dec 28, 2013 7:19 pm

Yeah I just did a fairly large video review of this monitor.
I've had no sdi port issues. I've used a standard
75ohm coaxial as well a top of the line Canare cable.
Both cables worked fine.

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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSat Dec 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Eddie Wee wrote:Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.


¡Woow! ¿BMCC SDI output damage? That's really serious, that tells, you can't plug any monitor to the camera just like that, didn't expect that, pretty weird ¿How about a supported monitor list then?

By the other hand, those malfunctions might be caused by people, knowing some persons just go berserker on their gear.

But it's a really serious warning indeed.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostSun Dec 29, 2013 6:31 pm

Recently bought a BMPCC and tried to use an older Lilliput 668GL, doesn't work... Just a heads up
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PostMon Dec 30, 2013 12:35 am

Eddie Wee wrote:Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.


Need to buy a new monitor soon. Which manufacturers are recommended? Also how could one type of monitor cause the SDI output to fail on a camera?
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PostMon Dec 30, 2013 9:41 am

Geoff Baxter wrote:Any number of things could cause it to fail, like poking some incorrect voltage up the cable back to the camera.


Thanks. Good to know it's technically plausible. May have to avoid Liliput then. Some recommended models/manufacturers would be helpful.
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostMon Dec 30, 2013 8:54 pm

I know there's some confusion with those who are trying to get hdmi-sdi convertors working so you don't have get an sdi monitor. You might want to watch the video on this page as he identifies the problem, then sells you his gadget.

http://www.indiproco.com/products?page= ... gory_id=29
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostWed Jan 08, 2014 6:51 am

I've been using a Ikan VX7 for a couple years.... it has sdi in and out and I was assuming it might work on the BMCC

I just ordered my BMCC and it's on the way. Does anyone have the IKAN VX7 and does it work??

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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostFri May 09, 2014 11:39 pm

Eddie Wee wrote:The damage is caused to the SDI output of BMCC. Have to replace the main PCB board.


¿How does one know that the SDI output it's damaged?
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I use the DP7 Pro from SmallHD. Works great and has an awesome picture
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostFri Sep 12, 2014 6:42 pm

Eddie Wee wrote:Please be careful when connecting Lilliput 7" monitor to BMCC directly or indirectly. You may lose the SDI output of BMCC. There are few reported cases in Asia. Please update your experience after using it.


So is this an issue with this company, just this model, or with higher resolution monitors such as retina and ips? I have a lower resolution cineroid evf without issue but someone else said that the cineroid retina evf burned out SDI on the BMCC. If it is the particular model, then is there an issue with the 663/S2
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostFri Apr 03, 2015 8:16 am

Lilliput monitor i used is good.It has upgraded with more function ,new model NO:663/S2 :D
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Re: Lilliput 7" 663/S with HD-SDI

PostWed Apr 22, 2015 7:31 am

If u wanna take photos or make short videos, just choose lilliput 663 with hdmi input and ur hdmi-sdi converter, if u wanna make movies, you'd better choose with lilliput 663 with sdi input, it'll be much helpful, and worth the extra value.

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