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Which Anamorphic lenses do you use with BM Cameras?

PostWed Apr 21, 2021 5:47 pm

Hi guys,

Can you tell about your experience, like which anamorphic lenses or adapters with specific lenses do you use, share with your video footage and photos of your diy rig setups.
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PostWed Apr 21, 2021 9:05 pm

I use the 24mm, 35mm and 50mm from Sirui with the pocket 4k camera. I'm not sure how this translates to the pocket 6k.
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PostWed Apr 21, 2021 11:21 pm

The cheapest build on s35 is probably DIY from a company such as Rapido or Rectilux.
Here's the Ursa Mini Pro 12K in that configuration:
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The main pieces are a Rapiod FVD-16A + ISCO Ultra Star Red + taking lens.
The taking lens in the photo above is a Tamron 45mm (this is the first time I've tried it) but I personally generally use the Nikon 50mm e or my preferred one, the Sigma Art 50mm.

Here are some stills:
(Tamron 45mm + 12K)
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(Nikon 85mm 1.8 Non-Ai + 12K)
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(Nikon 50mm e + Ursa Mini Pro G2)
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 12:09 am

Note Suwanchote wrote:The cheapest build on s35 is probably DIY from a company such as Rapido or Rectilux.
Here's the Ursa Mini Pro 12K in that configuration:
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The main pieces are a Rapiod FVD-16A + ISCO Ultra Star Red + taking lens.
The taking lens in the photo above is a Tamron 45mm (this is the first time I've tried it) but I personally generally use the Nikon 50mm e or my preferred one, the Sigma Art 50mm.

Quite a nifty setup. I like it and the images too.
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 12:24 am

I’ve shot with the Atlas Orion Anamorphic Lenses on my URSA Mini Pro G2. I like them. They’re $9K per lens roughly, so on the pricier side. But still cheaper than some of the other high end anamorphic cinema lenses.
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 12:25 am

Another frame grab from Atlas Orion Anamorphic:
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Note Suwanchote wrote:The cheapest build on s35 is probably DIY from a company such as Rapido or Rectilux.
Here's the Ursa Mini Pro 12K in that configuration:
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Interesting, you buy all this stuff separatelly from ebay or how?
Any webside where i can learn differences and advantages of DIY adapters and etc.?
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timbutt2 wrote:I’ve shot with the Atlas Orion Anamorphic Lenses on my URSA Mini Pro G2. I like them. They’re $9K per lens roughly, so on the pricier side. But still cheaper than some of the other high end anamorphic cinema lenses.


You're lucky, i cannot afford Atlas or Hawk as they too much expensive, but they industry standart.
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Phil999 wrote:I use the 24mm, 35mm and 50mm from Sirui with the pocket 4k camera. I'm not sure how this translates to the pocket 6k.


Sirui is great for they price and very sharp, but they give only 1.33x but i need 2x,
besides that they don't make for S35/FF sensors with EF mount which is sad,
that's why i think i need to go with DIY setup.
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 3:18 am

bmpcc6k wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:I’ve shot with the Atlas Orion Anamorphic Lenses on my URSA Mini Pro G2. I like them. They’re $9K per lens roughly, so on the pricier side. But still cheaper than some of the other high end anamorphic cinema lenses.


You're lucky, i cannot afford Atlas or Hawk as they too much expensive, but they industry standart.
I don’t own the Atlas Orion Anamorphic lenses. They were owned by the producers iron company I was shooting with them. I could rent them from the company easily when I want.

Honestly, I’d say they’re great affordable anamorphic lenses. But industry standard would be Cooke or Hawke or Panavision.


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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 3:34 am

timbutt2 wrote:Honestly, I’d say they’re great affordable anamorphic lenses. But industry standard would be Cooke or Hawke or Panavision.


I am talking about purchasing anamorphic not interested too much in renting.
Because maybe i want to use it few times in a aweek.
Cooke, Panavision, Hawk i'm not even think about that, they are too expensive and i don't want to use them at all.
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 10:58 am

Hi buddy

No photo of rig but I use old BMPC 4k with a Hypergonar 2x and sometimes a diopter on the front (from +0.5 to +4). It means double focus so not very practical for speedy work but it's still nice. Here's a clip ps anyone can tell me how to attach pic? Thanks.
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bmpcc6k wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:Honestly, I’d say they’re great affordable anamorphic lenses. But industry standard would be Cooke or Hawke or Panavision.


I am talking about purchasing anamorphic not interested too much in renting.
Because maybe i want to use it few times in a aweek.
Cooke, Panavision, Hawk i'm not even think about that, they are too expensive and i don't want to use them at all.

I have rented the Atlas Orion Anamorphic and used them on the UMP G2 and well as on the RED. They are nice lenses. Cooke is pretty much the standard. Other than the DIY and faux Anamorphics, and a few like the Sirui which is only 1.33x, these lenses are fairly expensive and were meant to be rented instead of owning. I wouldn't buy them. I, like most folks, would just rent them when the production has a budget for renting them for the duration of the shoot. This way, I have the flexibility of choice to which anamorphic lens I need for the particular project, instead of getting stuck with one and trying to convince myself that it will do the job when in fact it won't.
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 5:05 pm

bmpcc6k wrote:
Note Suwanchote wrote:The cheapest build on s35 is probably DIY from a company such as Rapido or Rectilux.
Here's the Ursa Mini Pro 12K in that configuration:
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Interesting, you buy all this stuff separately from eBay, or how?
Any website where I can learn the differences and advantages of DIY adapters and etc.?

You can buy the complete package sans the anamorphic scope itself here:
https://www.rapidotechnology.com/products/full-package

The anamorphic scope though can be bought on eBay or on Facebook. I bought mine off of the anamorphic shooters' facebook group— a good resource—here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/anamorphicshooters/


Ellory Yu wrote:
Note Suwanchote wrote:The cheapest build on s35 is probably DIY from a company such as Rapido or Rectilux.
Here's the Ursa Mini Pro 12K in that configuration:
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The main pieces are a Rapiod FVD-16A + ISCO Ultra Star Red + taking lens.
The taking lens in the photo above is a Tamron 45mm (this is the first time I've tried it) but I personally generally use the Nikon 50mm e or my preferred one, the Sigma Art 50mm.

Quite a nifty setup. I like it and the images too.


Thanks!


Here's a sample video of the G2 + Nikon 50 e. Should have 12K anamorphic up soon.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/327807189
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PostThu Apr 22, 2021 6:47 pm



i would stay away from that website. It's overpriced.

My setup is about $2800 with the taking lens:
SLR Magic 50mm APO Microprime, Kowa 16-H in Rapido FMJ, and a Rectilux HardcoreDNA
Here's some clips of other DIY anamorphic setups i've done...







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Note Suwanchote wrote:You can buy the complete package sans the anamorphic scope itself here:
https://www.rapidotechnology.com/products/full-package

The anamorphic scope though can be bought on eBay or on Facebook. I bought mine off of the anamorphic shooters' facebook group— a good resource—here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/anamorphicshooters/


Thanks, will review this website soon and i guess i will have some questions regarded to you
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Adam Langdon wrote:i would stay away from that website. It's overpriced.

My setup is about $2800 with the taking lens:
SLR Magic 50mm APO Microprime, Kowa 16-H in Rapido FMJ, and a Rectilux HardcoreDNA
Here's some clips of other DIY anamorphic setups i've done...



I am agree with you, it's overpriced.
How did you bought all your mentioned anamorphic stuff?
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Gary Collins wrote:Hi buddy

No photo of rig but I use old BMPC 4k with a Hypergonar 2x and sometimes a diopter on the front (from +0.5 to +4). It means double focus so not very practical for speedy work but it's still nice. Here's a clip ps anyone can tell me how to attach pic? Thanks.


I like the image, can you share the links of purchased accessories?
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PostFri Apr 23, 2021 1:54 am

Today i am planning to do some test with
BMPCC6K Pro + Sigma 18-35mm + SLR Magic Anamorphot-50 1.33x Anamorphic Adapter (at this time it's the only anamorphic adapter which i have), if i will get good results will share it here :)
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PostFri Apr 23, 2021 8:19 am

Hi Buddy

Good luck with shooting today! Here are some links.

1 - The Hypergonar Anamorphic Adapter

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324165385151 ... SwGLdeuWbH

Be warned - the Hypergonar is massive and heavy, but it is lovely.

2 - The +0.5 Diopter was bought from here

https://www.rapidotechnology.com/

Be warned - this guys makes lots of stuff, maybe you can find something very suitable.

3 - The +1, +2 etc Diopter set

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191228780336 ... SwnDZT9z11

Very cheap little set but useful, not bad at all!


Good luck buddy, have fun!
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Gary Collins wrote:Hi Buddy

Good luck with shooting today! Here are some links.



Thanks man.
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bmpcc6k wrote:
Phil999 wrote:I use the 24mm, 35mm and 50mm from Sirui with the pocket 4k camera. I'm not sure how this translates to the pocket 6k.


Sirui is great for they price and very sharp, but they give only 1.33x but i need 2x,
besides that they don't make for S35/FF sensors with EF mount which is sad,
that's why i think i need to go with DIY setup.

Suiri actually does fit s35 sensors, with zcam s6 you can swap in a mft and use suiri with it. I wish BM would make a mft for the ursa so that would be possible
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PostMon May 17, 2021 3:09 pm

Sharing screenshot from video test with Sigma 18-35 lens and SLR Magic Anamorphot-50 1.33x Anamorphic Adapter. I think this is not bad for budget anamorphic solution.
It was shot in 4K ProRes, f/5.4, ISO 400
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PostTue May 18, 2021 10:34 am

Chris Shivers wrote:
bmpcc6k wrote:
Phil999 wrote:I use the 24mm, 35mm and 50mm from Sirui with the pocket 4k camera. I'm not sure how this translates to the pocket 6k.


Sirui is great for they price and very sharp, but they give only 1.33x but i need 2x,
besides that they don't make for S35/FF sensors with EF mount which is sad,
that's why i think i need to go with DIY setup.

Suiri actually does fit s35 sensors, with zcam s6 you can swap in a mft and use suiri with it. I wish BM would make a mft for the ursa so that would be possible


Yes, all three Sirui lenses cover S35. On the Nikon Z6 You can cover the whole DX (1.5 crop) field without problem. Not a BM camera though, but You can record on a BM Video Assist in BRAW.

Just my two cents..

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