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Wayne Steven

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BM POV camera product.

PostTue Oct 22, 2013 5:49 pm

OK, was just thinking about this:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/18/sony-qx10-review/

In relation to blkackmagic's sensors.

Black magic could leverage their sensors into a POV product that can be used with mount and smaller fixed lens (a removable lens would do). The camera could be used as a standalone POV camera which also can act as an action or security camera, or 'b' cinema cameras on low cost productions, but also attach to a phone or tablet to be a full shooter. There now become no need for a future pocket, indeed a pocket can become a tablet/phone reference platform in a case with the POV inserted. These reference platforms cut a lot of design cost out and bring in cheaper parts. Android Arm based phones are starting to shoot 4k, and are likely to be able to handle raw data flows and the new cineform standard, in raw, in near future (Jan/Feb+). The POV head would communicate via fastest WiFi (soon to be 4k uncompressed speeds over very short distances means low power consumption) display port/thunderbolt usb3.0/mhl2.0 HDMI. Even a memory card slot could be used. The only thing needed is android software package to run it, of which there are a few good ones on iOS but one http://www.vizzywig.com/ coming to android.

To make it compact, there has been a lens technology that I have considered using for my own designs. It is liquid lens technology that is capable of delivering good results on shorter cheaper lens factors as it can replace multiple lens elements and change optical shape to zoom. As a low profile standard lens it may approach a fixed form factor, or be removed and replaced with a speed booster (or possibly act as one, as it is dynamically reconfigurable) and 2/3rds, s16, 4/3rds, s35, ff mounted. This also means that a smaller cheaper sensor can be used. As a equivalent sensor size, say we could possibly halve the length of the Sony smart lens, plus we can go smaller sized sensor and size again.

The other benefit is, if an arm android processing solution is used in the camera head (instead of using high speed data link and taxing the tablets processor), the same processing solution can also be used in the higher end cinema cameras, reducing cost. At the moment there is only snap dragon available, and silicon anode batteries, but early next year a 16 core 3ghz+ processor might be out. There is also a flash memory replacement cheaper much faster and higher density, called crossbar, based on resistive ram. These quality solutions are possible in the coming years, though phones themselves are often hampered in lens and camera and power consumption to heavily compress footage as standard to keep file size down.

Anyway a nice idea.
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Re: BM POV camera product.

PostTue Oct 22, 2013 6:04 pm

Then again, a 6-8 inch tablet with two (3d) fixed liquid lens mounted through the back to the front glass for extra length might deliver a descent image. The surface covering the backside of the sensor could be made to stick out to give extra length and be used as a control surface/scroll/home button if to the corner. The secondary sensor could also be a auxiliary control surface.

I forgot to mention, any aberration in the fixed can be fixed up in post software processing, which is now mostly possible.
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Re: BM POV camera product.

PostSun Jan 26, 2014 12:35 pm

Mostly answered above, it is about profit and convenience of service.
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Re: BM POV camera product.

PostTue Jan 28, 2014 3:29 am

Then somebody else does.
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Re: BM POV camera product.

PostTue Jan 28, 2014 2:12 pm

All a matter of foresight (to cut it short, intelligence).
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Re: BM POV camera product.

PostTue Jan 28, 2014 3:40 pm

It's nice to dream, isn't it.

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