BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

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BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostThu Nov 07, 2013 1:27 am

Has anyone tested wireless HD transmitters with the BMPCC - either the IDX CW-1 or Paralinx Arrow HD or other?

Looking at second operator solutions with gimbals. Thanks!
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostMon Nov 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Or the new Teradek Clip?


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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostMon Nov 11, 2013 5:46 pm

derekcooper wrote:Or the new Teradek Clip?


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Since it compresses to h264, an unreasonable delay of a couple seconds will occur. Will not work for traditional monitoring or operating.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostMon Nov 11, 2013 7:47 pm

Rob Ford wrote:Since it compresses to h264, an unreasonable delay of a couple seconds will occur. Will not work for traditional monitoring or operating.


A couple of seconds? I think you meant a couple of frames?

Doubt Teradek would ship something with a multi-second delay, that would be silly. Specs call for a 4 frame delay, or 1/6th of a second.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostMon Nov 11, 2013 10:33 pm

Sorry, you are right, I meant frame. In either case, if you are operating off of this monitor it would not be good as your reaction to the delay would be cumbersome.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 1:57 am

I'm not sure - there are wireless solutions out there getting used.



Vincent's team using them in this video.


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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 4:40 am

I have a BeSteady Gimbal and am considering buying a Nyrius Aries Pro. Much more affordable than the Paralinx.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 2:30 pm

Christian Schmeer wrote:I have a BeSteady Gimbal and am considering buying a Nyrius Aries Pro. Much more affordable than the Paralinx.


Interesting - half the range of other solutions though if you're thinking of using this on a copter.

Go buy one Christian and report back, please! :o
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 3:59 pm

derekcooper wrote:
Christian Schmeer wrote:I have a BeSteady Gimbal and am considering buying a Nyrius Aries Pro. Much more affordable than the Paralinx.


Interesting - half the range of other solutions though if you're thinking of using this on a copter.

Go buy one Christian and report back, please! :o

I've read reports that it actually goes beyond the stated range of 160ft (clear line of sight). I'm not using the gimbal on a copter, so range isn't too much of an issue.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 5:21 pm

You going to buy one then?
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostTue Nov 12, 2013 10:56 pm

chinese HDMI wireless transmitter + receiver = $120-$140
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Nov 13, 2013 12:13 am

Cool, I have been looking for a reasonably priced monitoring solution to build into my "MagicWand" wireless camera remote control app.

I got it working on the Android yesterday, and will post an updated video showing the Android App in action, I just need to tidy up the interface a bit.

Can someone point me to the Chinese HDMI transmitters please?

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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Nov 13, 2013 1:46 am

Monoprice has a new product: Wireless HDMI® Extender Up to 65.6ft for $166
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Nov 13, 2013 2:03 am

derekcooper wrote:You going to buy one then?

It's definitely on my list of things to buy, but it all depends on how well the ultra-slim lightweight HDMI cable that I bought works when using the gimbal in follow-mode. If it works well enough, I might delay the purchase of a wireless transmitter.

You might find this old forum thread interesting in relation to the Paralinx vs. Nyrius debate: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3706

darrenroark wrote:Monoprice has a new product: Wirteless HDMI® Extender Up to 65.6ft for $166

For use with a camera, you'd probably be better off going with a solution that has a smaller transmitter.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Nov 13, 2013 2:40 am

Andrew.Agnew@TheDoco.Co wrote:Can someone point me to the Chinese HDMI transmitters please?

Andy



like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nyrius-ARIES-Wi ... 1e80d8608c
US $169.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nyrius-ARIES-Wi ... 1e82b65152
US $162.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-HDMI-Digit ... 257e72bd73
US $126.89

never tested, but looks like it works
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Nov 13, 2013 10:47 am

Thanks Pete
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostWed Dec 04, 2013 1:33 pm

Anyone buy any of the proposed solutions above and can report back?
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostMon Jan 20, 2014 12:44 pm

I have been using the Paralynx Arrow+ and it works well and has a good range.
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Re: BMPCC Wireless HD Transmitter

PostThu Jan 23, 2014 7:32 am

I can confirm the Nyrius Aerius Pro is working BUT:

1. You can only pair multiple transmuter to ONE receiver ( that has a wireless small remote so you can switch from source to source ). You can not pair multiple receivers to ONE transmitter. For this on their website , they show another model 5.8 ghz also four channels

2. Range is good enough in straight line. If i would need something bigger it would be for aerial work

3. You need to buy 2 phone power banks ( http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/6264 ... -Black.jpg ) with 2 exits : 1A and 2A from 5V off course to power the transmiter, receiver and if the power bank does not have a proper 5V volts to fit your receiver ( the transmitter you power by micro usb ) you can use the plug from the Nyrius power adapter. Cut the cord and fit it in the power bank.

4. For monitoring purposes is ok BUT don't even think about recording from this stream. I would not trust it and that is just because of the price to be onset.

5. IS THE SAME THING WITH PARALAX ARROW EXTERNALLY ( Paralax claims to be different internally, and i am sure they are but on the red users forum there are guys claiming they have paired Paralax with Nyrius so you get the idea.... Is a good and cheap solution but i would need to test further to see how it acts on the long run.

After you make the small adaptations of the power cords ( 5V also is powering many HDMI 5" 7" monitors ) think about how you will split the signal so you have 1 hdmi for transmitter and one for monitor.

Since BMC 4K has no HDMI output, you need to buy a self powered converter from ATOMOS, if you intend to use HDMI monitor and i would advice to get a monitor that has also a HDMI output so you can plug you Nyrius transmitter and not getting more cables on the rig, cage for a signal splitter that also has to be powered. I would use splitter for the receivers you can show life footage on 2, 3 or how many monitors you have.

I have 2 sets of Nyrius that i will use on 2 cameras, each one with it;s monitoring and splitting.

FOR aerial work i would use Teradek or Tomahawk from Paralax BUT until i will need these i am certain something ¼ of the price will come out!

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