Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

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Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSat Jul 16, 2022 7:57 pm

more like a Meike-prime-lens?

With softer rolloffs, taking away the sharpness.

Or is it possible to get the Meike-prime-look in Resolve?
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSat Jul 16, 2022 8:07 pm

Tiffen Black Promist filter.
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSat Jul 16, 2022 8:17 pm

Pro mist like Ellory told, or you can try with low contrast filter, I had both from tiffen, bw, Schneider optics, different result, I love it.


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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSun Jul 17, 2022 2:06 pm

Thx.
Which mist filter to get a look closest to Mike prime: 1/8, 1/4 or 1/2?
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSun Jul 17, 2022 8:23 pm

You can also just try dropping the contrast in post; be prepared to drop it a lot.

Some of the diffusion filters can cause speckled out-of-focus highlights (e.g., Hollywood Black Magic) and I don't use them much anymore. Try reducing contrast and/or using Resolve's diffusion tools; there are also diffusion plugins you can buy nowadays although the best ones are expensive.
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostSun Jul 17, 2022 9:01 pm

daktulus wrote:Thx.
Which mist filter to get a look closest to Mike prime: 1/8, 1/4 or 1/2?
It’s a matter of taste. Technically you should use lighter for wide, heavier for tele to be constant in diffusion, but sometimes I like to break a rules.
On tiffen website there is a filter simulator that allow you to choose.


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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 10:26 am

Brad Hurley wrote:You can also just try dropping the contrast in post; be prepared to drop it a lot.

Some of the diffusion filters can cause speckled out-of-focus highlights (e.g., Hollywood Black Magic) and I don't use them much anymore. Try reducing contrast and/or using Resolve's diffusion tools; there are also diffusion plugins you can buy nowadays although the best ones are expensive.


Can you get the same effect doing it in post as with a low contrast filter? I'd love to not use a pro mist in camera as it makes focus peaking really hard to use.
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 10:40 am

Regarding post filters Video Village makes the one I like best, Scatter.

I think I get the idea of recommending a Pro-Mist filter as it's pretty much the norm, but in my mind there's nothing "Meike" about it. Maybe if the filter is used on both lenses the differences will be sufficiently masked. Was that the idea?
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 2:16 pm

There’s more to lens characteristics than softness or micro-contrast.
The 18-35 by Sigma is ‘clinical’, but it can be matched with Zeiss primes pretty well. Most others factors, like color, vignetting, or edge softness, even distortion, can be added in post with enough patience. But be aware that such subtleties change with focal length and distance too.
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Re: Is there a filter that makes the Sigma18-35 look

PostTue Jul 19, 2022 4:33 am

woofy75 wrote:
Can you get the same effect doing it in post as with a low contrast filter? I'd love to not use a pro mist in camera as it makes focus peaking really hard to use.

This may get you started…

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