NAB 2024 - predictions?

BMD has the worst naming game in the industry. "BMPCC6KG2" would make a decent password and that's already the short version.

Or how about this: "Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro 12K OLPF".

Meanwhile Sony releases a camera named "Burano" (and it's all hype and I don't even know why given the price).

As you say they should ditch the "K"s altogether and simplify their whole naming system.

Agree.

BMCC was cool, BMPCC was kinf of ok and made sense... from there went to crazy even for loyal fans,
got too confusing ...

Since BMD market for cinema mainly and broadcast, should separate those two in distinguished way.

My suggestion would be branding similar to Canon.
Example BMCC , BMCC Mark 2 or just II.
same with bmpcc line Mark 2,3,4 ...

Meanwhile Sony releases a camera named "Burano" (and it's all hype and I don't even know why given the price).

Actually they released the Sony MPC-2610 BURANO
Although they are calling it Burano for short.
Like the Sony MPC-3610 VENICE
And Sony MPC-3626 & MPC-3628 VENICE 2, 6K & 8K
Or Sony PMW-F5/F55

But I'm with you on the overly complex long naming convention BMD uses.

If this was Apple, its name would be ICamera 6 for the BMPCC6K, ICamera 6 Pro for the BMPCC6K Pro, ICamera 6 Pro MAX for the BMCC 6K.

The URSA mini pro 12K would be ICamera 12 Pro MAX, and for the URSA mini pro 4.6K would be ICamera 5 (no fractions) Pro.

I bet it would be "iCam" though, iCamera is two syllables too long and Apple marketing realizes how much these things matter (for everyday objects at least).

haha, whenever someone asks what I shoot with I say, "The 6k. The L Mount one. The Cinema Camera 6k. Full Frame. The Cinema Camera 6k Full Frame L Mount. That's what I use."

So back to speculation…

I bet we get the 6k full sensor in the box shape we’ve been waiting for or atleast a slightly smaller version of the ursa. I think it will have cloud as a big feature, shoot on cfast and have an olpf. And just for laughs, I recon they will give the pocket 6k nd’s for a pro version. We find this out half way through grants presentation after he’s spoken for half an hour about an atem switcher and a sdi converter box.

I also think the first batch are going to be riddled with problems but the image quality will be amazing.

The dual sensor will seem great but in reality, it’s noisy and 800 iso is going to be the only real sweet spot for serious work. Because BMD love us, they’ve also made the ND variable and hurrahhh we also have thumbnail previews too like the other camera updates.

The open gate combo with atlas anamorphics look beautiful (thanks John Brawley for the test footage) and the download link we’re given are a lot of fun to play with.

At this point, I halt my burano purchase and jump back into the forums to be with the only likeminded people who understand why I’m smiling from ear to ear.

Somehow there’s already a buttery lut available for the new colour science.

And while we’re saving up for the £6590 price tag, we’ll have fun using the new AI image generation in Davinci that becomes really cool when you use it with the depth Matt to create cool backgrounds.

Facebook market place is packed with Ursa mini’s for sale all of a sudden

If the G2 could talk, it would be saying “hey guys, so is this a no to gen 5?”

End of prediction.

I ll try again.

BMCC 65
True Pocket 4k
Lidar in some form for VP

Not a big fan of the phone for recording, but it does do best for Vertical. And, I hate Vertical.

The biggest problem with the UMP or Pocket Cams is they still aren't that well designed for Vertical Video. I hate that this is becoming a standard, but maybe we need a technically properly built camera for Vertical Only Video.

So, maybe that will happen. I'm gagging a little at the idea. Again, I hate Vertical Video. But, if we must maybe we need a camera properly built for it.

Ursa with a modern full frame camera seems a given.

Not a big fan of the phone for recording, but it does do best for Vertical. And, I hate Vertical.

So, maybe that will happen. I'm gagging a little at the idea. Again, I hate Vertical Video. But, if we must maybe we need a camera properly built for it.

What's kinda cool with the 3:2 sensor on the 6kFF is that I've had clients pause and go, "wow, we like that look. What if we did that instead of 16x9/9x16?" Then the discussion happens and it's 50/50 on the odds, but I've had two productions bite on that aspect ratio.

I imagine if, regardless of s35 or FF, BMD put out another 3:2 sensor it would open up framing possibilities in a fun way. I've seen a LOT of 4:3 projects being used for both social media and classic deliverables.

My personal disdain for 16x9 may sound silly, but I don't like the image covering the entire monitor/screen. I want to see bars of some kind, haha.

I agree. Also, the fastest way to add $10m production value is to slap 2.4:1 bars on it

I believe that remote production will be a big topic in broadcasting.
In recent weeks, the SRT format has been added to many products.
The topic of remote studio is a huge thing and Blackmagic could do great things with multichannel encoders/decoders and timecode.

I belive we will see a Nikon roadmap regarding cinema glass.
And is they are to live up to the "RED will continue on their own" - Nikon need to set up a direction for their Z-line. Continue with Tico RAW or slowly progress towards or complement with REDcode - Or the other way around.

Regarding BMD, I wish they they would make a move into audio recorder, streaming and TC.
They cover so much else in the workflow except those two areas.
- New line of Video Assists > Production Assists 3/12G with TC and live streaming/C2C.
- Fairlight Audio Recorder Mini and Pro 4 vs 12 channels with TC et al.
- And an agressive price drop for the Micro Studio 4k or a Micro Studio S35.

But it will most likely be nothing of those.
Another Pocket style and Ursa something with C2C.
Some ATEM.
And perhaps mini monitor/recorder for 4K.

I agree. Also, the fastest way to add $10m production value is to slap 2.4:1 bars on it

Hell yes! I do this to most of the stuff we put on YouTube. Since some smooth brain at YouTube decided to add rounded corners to the default YouTube view...having black bars with wide format shot productions still makes them look somewhat decent to me instead of the rounded crap.

Regarding the announcement, I really hope its not something related to AI diffusion garbage in any shape or form. Cameras or Resolve.

What's kinda cool with the 3:2 sensor on the 6kFF is that I've had clients pause and go, "wow, we like that look. What if we did that instead of 16x9/9x16?" Then the discussion happens and it's 50/50 on the odds, but I've had two productions bite on that aspect ratio.

I imagine if, regardless of s35 or FF, BMD put out another 3:2 sensor it would open up framing possibilities in a fun way. I've seen a LOT of 4:3 projects being used for both social media and classic deliverables.

My personal disdain for 16x9 may sound silly, but I don't like the image covering the entire monitor/screen. I want to see bars of some kind, haha.

Yeah, dual window mask frame guides wouldn't be a terrible idea in that scenario where you can frame for both and have the guides for them on screen. Still, I hate the idea of having to frame for both.

As for the wanting to see bars I think that comes from our DVD generation of upbringing to a degree. I even had some Widescreen VHS tapes back in the day, but then with DVD always had Widescreen movies that resulted in Black Bars for the 4x3 TV. Unless the movie was pre-1953 there would be bars. So having bar on screen feels cinematic. Haha.

Yet, I do love classic movies and the 1.33:1 aspect ratio. Now on the 16x9 HDTV & 4KTV we have pillarbox bars. So we get bars with that aspect ratio now as well. Haha.

The Cinema full frame 6K was only released in September 2023, so I´d be suprised if there was another big camera release.

Unless they´ve been working on something completely new and the Cinema 6K was an easy way to ´test the water´with full frame and L mount, using the old pocket bodies.

I´m guessing:

1. Davinci Resolve 19
2. New on-camera video assist monitors (5 and 7 inch)

Again, I hate Vertical Video. But, if we must maybe we need a camera properly built for it.

Why not just crop/reframe from horizontal footage?

The Cinema full frame 6K was only released in September 2023, so I´d be suprised if there was another big camera release.

They tease it in the countdown and John teased it pretty unequivocally.

Last year it was reported that DaVinci Resolve is coming to Windows ARM devices in 2024 so I think it's a safe bet we'll see that in Resolve 19. Performance is apparently on par or better than comparable Apple Silicon devices, although that statement doesn't say anything about the performance/watt ratio which is the interesting part.

My bet is that we will see a new full-frame URSA camera, and the BMCC 6K will remain the entry-level FF for BM—an excellent "entry level." I still can't believe that I can stealthily shoot full-frame BRAW, looking like a tourist.

My desire for Santa Claus...ehm NAB? A light camera for documentary filmmakers, somewhat reminiscent of the Digital Bolex.

- Compact body with global shutter. 4K is enough.
- S16 or S35 sensor.
- EVF
- Slightly less dynamic range than other BM cameras, but a good compromise between global shutter and decent latitude.

Again, I hate Vertical Video. But, if we must maybe we need a camera properly built for it.

Why not just crop/reframe from horizontal footage?

Because in general I don’t purposely frame for a good vertical image when shooting horizontal. They’re different frames and you should frame them appropriately. I hate the whole entire reframe in post mentality when it comes to no having planned for it.

This is also why I think we should all be fighting the social media engineers as the lazy morons they are. Is it that hard to code for a phone to flip from vertical to horizontal? No. YouTube and others have been doing it for a decade. It’s not like phone audiences haven’t been used to turning their phones for video content. It’s just the lazy social media developers don’t want to code for that. In particular I’m looking at Instagram and TikTok for this dumb and lazy trend.


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My prediction is for a new camera body but not sure if its new sensor or from the current lineup sensors

My list (not going to happen):

- A pocket camera with built-in sensor stabilization
- Natural color control mode (in the style of Baselight) adjusting images the natural way (linear light, RGB adjustments that feel natural etc)
- Perfect HDR 10+ control and delivery
- AI 3D light processing
- AI scene categorization with face recognition
- AI speech transcription and speaker recognition using speaker voiceprints
- AI black and highlight recovery

Again, I hate Vertical Video.

So do I.

But there is a vertical video on the new home page countdown image.

Again, I hate Vertical Video.

So do I.

But there is a vertical video on the new home page countdown image.

Kind of funny that it's a poorly framed vertical video too!

Last year it was reported that DaVinci Resolve is coming to Windows ARM devices in 2024 so I think it's a safe bet we'll see that in Resolve 19. Performance is apparently on par or better than comparable Apple Silicon devices, although that statement doesn't say anything about the performance/watt ratio which is the interesting part.

I’m hoping the genius developers of Blackmagic has been working on code optimization so that Resolve 19 will be able to run on the Intel CPU integrated UHD770 in conjunction with the Intel A770 GPU, that combination together with utilizing RAM (which is cheap) to extend VRAM for grading and AI work.

Again, I hate Vertical Video.

So do I.

But there is a vertical video on the new home page countdown image.

Um... when I just looked it's now more a live concert broadcast type image.

Maybe they’ll retire the Ursa name and come up with a new one. Whenever I hear the Ursa name, I think of General Ursus from the planet of the apes. I know that it’s named after the Ursa Telecine.

Maybe they’ll retire the Ursa name and come up with a new one. Whenever I hear the Ursa name, I think of General Ursus from the planet of the apes. I know that it’s named after the Ursa Telecine.

Together Apes Strong!

Blackmagic Caesar Cinema Camera.


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Evidence that the next camera will be the BMVCC?

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If so, it will be an Influencer Camera

So some PTZ or robot controlled arm?

They have done these emphatic live production images before when a cinema camera was announced. It is NAB for Pete’s sake, haha.

That countdown now showing 2 days and 14 hours is all well and good, but it is getting a bit boring after watching it over the roughly last four days.

I’m looking forward to a repeat of the teasers they did when the BMPCC4K was shown in a few extreme closeup shots so we could not know exactly what we were looking at; it was a nice touch of mystery. Given how many more sleuths are out in the wild now, perhaps those few teasers will be quickly assembled by an inappropriate AI into an imagined full view of the new camera(s)! So we may at least know by late Thursday afternoon if it’s a camera or a self-driving car that will ‘wow’ us Friday morning in Las Vegas. Any bets?

It’s not like phone audiences haven’t been used to turning their phones for video content.

Obviously we know different people I was once asked to take a photo of three people. Did the obvious turned the phone to landscape. All three went what are you doing? They looked at the photo ONCE in landscape then turned the phone back to vertical never to change again.

The sad thing is they all thought it looked better in landscape.

Obviously we know different people I was once asked to take a photo of three people. Did the obvious turned the phone to landscape. All three went what are you doing? They looked at the photo ONCE in landscape then turned the phone back to vertical never to change again.

The sad thing is they all thought it looked better in landscape.

I have no faith left in humanity. I'm hitting the reset button. Time to start over. The next dominant species will be far better.

The movie theater of the future:

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The movie theater of the future:

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Immersive lool

Obviously we know different people I was once asked to take a photo of three people. Did the obvious turned the phone to landscape. All three went what are you doing? They looked at the photo ONCE in landscape then turned the phone back to vertical never to change again.

The sad thing is they all thought it looked better in landscape.

I have no faith left in humanity. I'm hitting the reset button. Time to start over. The next dominant species will be far better.

So you also watched (or read) the 3-Body Problem, eh?

I'm going to wager that the next dominant species is already here and already dominant, but we just don't know it. They're hiding behind their excessive cuteness and lulling us into a false sense of confidence with their endless purring.

I have no faith left in humanity. I'm hitting the reset button. Time to start over. The next dominant species will be far better.

So you also watched (or read) the 3-Body Problem, eh?

I'm going to wager that the next dominant species is already here and already dominant, but we just don't know it. They're hiding behind their excessive cuteness and lulling us into a false sense of confidence with their endless purring.

Yeah, I watched 3 Body Problem. I would contact the aliens as well.

I thought we were servants to cats already. I mean, didn't the Egyptians build all their monuments in service to the cats?

Wait! All the cat videos I watch are Vertical now. Oh, no!

Also, I'm one of the "Make the internet cat videos again" people.

Yeah, I watched 3 Body Problem. I would contact the aliens as well.

So would I.

I thought we were servants to cats already. I mean, didn't the Egyptians build all their monuments in service to the cats?

Yes, but it's a secret. We're not supposed to know it yet. Remember the mice from Hitchhiker's Guide?

Wait! All the cat videos I watch are Vertical now. Oh, no!
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Dammit!

Also, I'm one of the "Make the internet cat videos again" people.

So am I. Especially since i have a cat again, who apparently knows that she's named after a queen, even if said queen is fictional.

I've figured out what the next Blackmagic Camera will be called: Blackmagic Catloaf Cinema Camera

ARRI Alexa 35 Live Multicam announced. It seems ARRI will be a competitor for the traditional broadcast manufacturers and BMD Broadcast ecosystem. Will be interesting to see what BMD will reveal in two days and two hours.

To avoid public scrutiny from the permission police, I shot a public scene with a few actors using an IPhone and the BM Camera app holding the camera in vertical position (I love this feature btw). However I was recording in horizontal motion so I could intercut it with the other horizontal scenes. After the take, I showed it to the actors and they were so surprised and disappointed that it was not vertically displayed. What has become of humanity? TikTok…. TikTok… the mouse went up the camera.

Perhaps it just part of human nature that the current ‘generation’ wants to define itself and distinguish itself from previous generations. In a few years, the pendulum will swing again to a ‘new’ perspective and videos will be square again and a later generation will go back to flat perhaps. Vertical has its place where it can be a good idea in some situations, but there are other scenarios where a wide presentation adds important context to the subject. Vertical tries to almost completely remove context; when the subject is part of the Me generation, I think the only relevant context is ‘me’.

Vertical tries to almost completely remove context; when the subject is part of the Me generation, I think the only relevant context is ‘me’.

Nailed it.

ARRI Alexa 35 Live Multicam announced. It seems ARRI will be a competitor for the traditional broadcast manufacturers and BMD Broadcast ecosystem. Will be interesting to see what BMD will reveal in two days and two hours.

They have been for some time, Rick, with the Amira, but it never really caught on to threaten Sony in that space, UB G1/2 neither but at least the latter is a popular cost-effective alternative, in the event/corporate sector - the Amira is too expensive for there. An OLFP Ursa Broadcast with a faster read out sensor could be a thing though. It shows it's a very big market though away from digital cinematography.

Hope they bring the brick back

At least in the states, BMD have carved a big slice of live production of the church world.
There’s plenty of UMBG2’s floating around. They deliver excellent quality and are affordable compared to the competition.

I honestly don’t know what they could improve on in the broadcast camera field??