Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

The place for questions about shooting with Blackmagic Cameras.
  • Author
  • Message
Offline

Leon Benzakein

  • Posts: 1496
  • Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostTue Dec 10, 2024 7:34 pm

Television: Lighting/Cameraman, O.B. Camera Operator, Experience in EFP, EPG and ENG , Grip, Lamp Operator
Film: Grip, Lamp Operator
Theater: Lighting Designer, Light board Operator, Stage Electrician, Stage Management
Offline

Jim Simon

  • Posts: 35981
  • Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:47 am

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostTue Dec 10, 2024 7:51 pm

I'm seeing some REAL nice ideas in there! :)
My Biases:

You NEED training.
You NEED a desktop.
You NEED a calibrated (non-computer) display.
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostTue Dec 10, 2024 8:44 pm

Yes, nice ideas. Multiple mounts like BMD supports sometimes. Cinematic voice actor essential to the mission.

Several products exist with the name Nexus. That immediately tells me how creative these folks are.

Everything included? Hmm, then why do you need modules and accessories?

Taken the “Blackmagic sensor” from the BMPCC6K… but I think that’s not Blackmagic’s sensor, it’s a Sony, no?

The Nexus camera operating system GUI looks great. Of course it does, it’s Blackmagic Design’s camera OS. Presumably licensed but not mentioned outside of the undocumented encouragement and help they received from Blackmagic.

Get in line to buy this, perhaps early adopters will get the camera April 1.
Rick Lang
Offline

Howard Roll

  • Posts: 3124
  • Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:50 am

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostTue Dec 10, 2024 9:02 pm

rick.lang wrote:Presumably licensed but not mentioned outside of the undocumented encouragement and help they received from Blackmagic.


There's no licensing, it's a rehoused camera. These guys are ostensibly buying a pallet of 6k Pros and rehousing them into another body. I doubt this will ever see the light of day especially at the price point given. The "company" is a couple brothers their mom, dad, and an aunt it looks like. Didn't see any of them on IMDB so I'm not sure who the filmmaker is in the family,

Good Luck
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostTue Dec 10, 2024 9:38 pm

Thanks for the background information, Howard. I’m shocked that today’s Red Shark News article wasn’t illuminating:

https://www.redsharknews.com/huge-nexus ... -g1-design

However older items reveal more:

https://www.redsharknews.com/nexus-g1-b ... ontroversy

“However, this project is different because I am not only an industrial designer and filmmaker, but also a CGI artist (it's what I do for work) and I am backed by my family who I work together with daily, and this gives us the unique ability to very easily share the project using our own expertise, at an early stage to get critical input from people who have far more experience in the film industry than we do…”
Rick Lang
Offline
User avatar

Adam Langdon

  • Posts: 998
  • Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:15 pm
  • Location: Ohio USA

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 12:15 am

EDIT, just saw this was a NEW video, not the announcement from a while ago...

this guy has a channel on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@AltCine/videos

He does fun stuff with Blackmagic cameras of "old". I personally like the approach. He had mentioned that BMD said he can't use the Blackmagic name in anything he's doing, but I think the Pyxis killed all the momentum.

Still, rehousing cinema cameras seems like a great hobby. Especially with 3D printing and such.

It would be funny if one day someone 'hacked up' a Pyxis and put the screen on the top.
Long-time Blackmagic User
Offline
User avatar

Alex Mitchell

  • Posts: 353
  • Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:32 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 2:04 am

All of the stuff in this video is cool and everything but this strains credulity.

An extra display on the top that looks like a custom UI? Direct control of 3 Tilta Nuclues Nano2 motors? Custom SSDs? Custom display and EVF connectors? An electronic ND system? Push-button swappable lens mounts? And all based on a platform that is beginning to look a little long in the tooth...

I dunno. So many things about this look like red flags to me. Also, I know that designing a full camera platform is a lot of work but with everything they're pouring in to this I'm suspicious why they're not just going the rest of the way and designing their own internals whole cloth.

Also, nitpick: the BMPCC6Ks can't record in 6K or 2.8K with ProRes—you can only do that with BRAW. ProRes is limited to 4K, UHD, and 1080p.
Offline
User avatar

Adam Langdon

  • Posts: 998
  • Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:15 pm
  • Location: Ohio USA

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 12:25 pm

“Feature Rich” in an amateur camera equates to “many fail points” to me.
Lots can go wrong.

I think it does feel like a camera designed by users and/or people in a focus group.

It’s amazing, though, that at this point in cinema history people can repurpose cameras and design their own.
Long-time Blackmagic User
Offline

jallen0

  • Posts: 1088
  • Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:04 pm
  • Real Name: Justin Allen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 1:24 pm

That video, like his others, are designed for one thing and one thing only. To attract funding. They have a prototype and some press however there is no way they can deliver at scale without funding.

And honestly I do not see a PE group willing to fund this as they don't really own the underlying technology. They own a process and you cannot resell a process. There is no out, or protection for any PE funding.
2019 MacPro OS 12.1, 3.2GHz 16 Core, 160GB Mem, 4TB Drive, 8TB Internal Sonnet Raid, Dual Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB
LG UF 5k, 27" Tbolt Display, 55" LG C8
Resolve Edit Keyboard, Mini Panel, US 4K Mini
Resolve Studio Ver. 17.4.3
Desktop Video 12.1
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 3:45 pm

Reminds me of the Digital Bolex in that their development arc looks promising, but harmony can lead to discord in the end.
Rick Lang
Offline

ShaheedMalik

  • Posts: 1557
  • Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:28 am
  • Real Name: Shaheed Malik

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 4:56 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:EDIT, just saw this was a NEW video, not the announcement from a while ago...

this guy has a channel on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@AltCine/videos

He does fun stuff with Blackmagic cameras of "old". I personally like the approach. He had mentioned that BMD said he can't use the Blackmagic name in anything he's doing, but I think the Pyxis killed all the momentum.

Still, rehousing cinema cameras seems like a great hobby. Especially with 3D printing and such.

It would be funny if one day someone 'hacked up' a Pyxis and put the screen on the top.

It's not the same guy.
Offline
User avatar

Joe Shapiro

  • Posts: 4253
  • Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:23 am
  • Location: Los Angeles CA USA

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostWed Dec 11, 2024 7:17 pm

Did some internet digging and it seems Timothy Boland from NSW is behind this. His main site: https://avid-nexus.com/
Director, Editor, Problem Solver. Been cutting indie features for 24 years. FCP editor from version 2 to 7.
Resolve 20.0.3B
MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max 64GB RAM, macOS 14.7.2
MacBook Air 13 M1 8GB RAM, macOS 14.6.1
BMPCC4K 8.6 beta
BMCC6K 8.7 beta
Offline

ShaheedMalik

  • Posts: 1557
  • Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:28 am
  • Real Name: Shaheed Malik

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostThu Dec 12, 2024 5:49 am

This camera is vaporware until they show a fully functional version of it. Even a prototype.
Offline

Roland Fleming

  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:44 am
  • Real Name: Roland Fleming

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostThu Dec 12, 2024 8:48 am

I'm surprised by the negative tone, I think this is an extremely appealing feature set and a lot of people would be excited about this if they can actually deliver and the price is right. Lots of people hate rigging and just want to get on with filming. For me the main thing that's missing is wireless video transmission for a focus puller. But BM could learn a lot from this design concept even if it remains vapourware from this particular outfit...
Offline

Thomas.avid

  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:24 am
  • Real Name: Thomas Boland

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostThu Dec 12, 2024 9:58 am

Hey guys, Thomas here. I dont use these forms a whole lot but noticed you guys talking about the nexus so thought I'd chime in since i know a thing or two about it ;)

Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them. Also you'll find on Facebook groups my posts going back to early 2024 showing incremental progress on the project. Just a whole lot more people know about it now because it's hit a chord in the community. So it's all grown very much organically and unexpectedly.

And yes Timothy is my brother, and Avid Nexus is our family design/filmmaking studio.


Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
Offline
User avatar

carlomacchiavello

  • Posts: 3053
  • Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:04 pm
  • Location: italy

Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostThu Dec 12, 2024 10:17 am

rick.lang wrote:Yes, nice ideas. Multiple mounts like BMD supports sometimes. Cinematic voice actor essential to the mission.

Several products exist with the name Nexus. That immediately tells me how creative these folks are.

Everything included? Hmm, then why do you need modules and accessories?

Taken the “Blackmagic sensor” from the BMPCC6K… but I think that’s not Blackmagic’s sensor, it’s a Sony, no?

The Nexus camera operating system GUI looks great. Of course it does, it’s Blackmagic Design’s camera OS. Presumably licensed but not mentioned outside of the undocumented encouragement and help they received from Blackmagic.

Get in line to buy this, perhaps early adopters will get the camera April 1.
In my past life of 3d artist Nexus was a bad bad name, two differente software should renovate by Nexus version, both are dead immediately or near their announcements
No good name
Anyway who could be interest to a cam that are not supported from motherhouse (Blackmagic Design) be cause is rehousing, and we know that most of Blackmagic Design cam are not repairable?
Now with pixys and micro cam we just have box cam, if someone need it (not me), why choose a product like this?

With the additional risk that if in a future firmware update is not recognize something of hardware you risk to be with a big paper holder.


Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostThu Dec 12, 2024 3:54 pm

Certainly Nexus would have troublesome warranty exclusions.
Rick Lang
Offline

Roland Fleming

  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:44 am
  • Real Name: Roland Fleming

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostFri Dec 13, 2024 8:08 am

For me the point is that someone is actually listening to the needs of the community. So many of the features are what we actually want:
- hot swappable V-mount batteries
- hot swappable lens mounting options
- built-in FIZ control
- options for a built-in electronically controlled ND filter
- a bunch of other things that other people care about like proper mic inputs ...

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the two 6Ks I use but despite their greatness in so many ways, they are also somewhat flawed and awkward to work with and the Pyxis is only a partial solution. Some of us don't like having 4 different battery systems and cables dangling around and needing to have a bunch of Alan keys and screwdrivers when we are filming.

This G1 announcement has people excited because it promises to solve a bunch of really obvious problems not just in BMPCC but in most cine cams on the market. I honestly don't care who delivers on them ... if BM could make a camera like the G1 I would be delighted and get that.

Like I said, the one thing that for me is still missing is built-in wireless video transmission for the focus puller ...
Offline

BrydeSorensen

  • Posts: 62
  • Joined: Sat May 18, 2024 9:00 am
  • Real Name: Bryde Sorensen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostFri Dec 13, 2024 10:55 pm

Thomas.avid wrote:Hey guys, Thomas here. I dont use these forms a whole lot but noticed you guys talking about the nexus so thought I'd chime in since i know a thing or two about it ;)

Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them. Also you'll find on Facebook groups my posts going back to early 2024 showing incremental progress on the project. Just a whole lot more people know about it now because it's hit a chord in the community. So it's all grown very much organically and unexpectedly.

And yes Timothy is my brother, and Avid Nexus is our family design/filmmaking studio.


Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk


Thanks for commenting here. I saw the news posts and it's an interesting project. From a manufacturing perspective, it's a pretty big project to have so many modules and parts in this.

Could you shed some more light on how you're integrating these things?

Do you run the original firmware on the BMD board?
Did you look into options for improving the writespeeds? As it seems you're limited to the writespeeds of the current pocket 6K board ports.
Would it be possible for you to put a writespeed graph in the integrated monitor?
Offline

Leon Benzakein

  • Posts: 1496
  • Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Dec 14, 2024 12:17 am

Thomas.avid wrote:Hey guys, Thomas here. I dont use these forms a whole lot but noticed you guys talking about the nexus so thought I'd chime in since i know a thing or two about it ;)

Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them. Also you'll find on Facebook groups my posts going back to early 2024 showing incremental progress on the project. Just a whole lot more people know about it now because it's hit a chord in the community. So it's all grown very much organically and unexpectedly.

And yes Timothy is my brother, and Avid Nexus is our family design/filmmaking studio.


Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk


Hello Thomas

Fancy meeting you here.
Welcome to the forum.

It is the wild, wild West of the Blackmagic Design world.
Sometimes it is akin to gladiators in the Colosseum.

Meet all sorts of jolly fellows here, from all parts of the world.

I hope your stay will be a pleasant one.
I will leave the lights on for you.

Cheers!
May the games begin!
Television: Lighting/Cameraman, O.B. Camera Operator, Experience in EFP, EPG and ENG , Grip, Lamp Operator
Film: Grip, Lamp Operator
Theater: Lighting Designer, Light board Operator, Stage Electrician, Stage Management
Offline

Thomas.avid

  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:24 am
  • Real Name: Thomas Boland

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Dec 14, 2024 3:24 am

BrydeSorensen wrote:
Thomas.avid wrote:Hey guys, Thomas here. I dont use these forms a whole lot but noticed you guys talking about the nexus so thought I'd chime in since i know a thing or two about it ;)

Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them. Also you'll find on Facebook groups my posts going back to early 2024 showing incremental progress on the project. Just a whole lot more people know about it now because it's hit a chord in the community. So it's all grown very much organically and unexpectedly.

And yes Timothy is my brother, and Avid Nexus is our family design/filmmaking studio.


Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk


Thanks for commenting here. I saw the news posts and it's an interesting project. From a manufacturing perspective, it's a pretty big project to have so many modules and parts in this.

Could you shed some more light on how you're integrating these things?

Do you run the original firmware on the BMD board?
Did you look into options for improving the writespeeds? As it seems you're limited to the writespeeds of the current pocket 6K board ports.
Would it be possible for you to put a writespeed graph in the integrated monitor?


Thanks a lot, yes its a big project, been a year in the making.

As for the modules, they integrate different ways, some simply some more sophisticated. SDI feeds off the HDMI and power distro system. Lemo module just taps into the 12v system in place of the D-tap. Electronic ND module is more sophisticated so we wont go into detail on that :)

Yes we are limited to the P6KG2 write speed. We have maximized the Cfast interface (the fastest interface the camera has by a fairly large margin) with the Maxdrives. We cant do anything to increase the write speed beyond that, but to be honest i don't think higher write speed is even very useful. You can shoot nearly all compressions options on the Nexus with the Maxdrives, and the ones you cant will result in unnecessarily massive file sizes. Adding write speed to the control panel is possible - though real measured write speed is likely not possible. We could put theoretical write speed for your given codec/resolution/fps/compression.
Offline

Thomas.avid

  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:24 am
  • Real Name: Thomas Boland

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Dec 14, 2024 3:31 am

Leon Benzakein wrote:
Thomas.avid wrote:Hey guys, Thomas here. I dont use these forms a whole lot but noticed you guys talking about the nexus so thought I'd chime in since i know a thing or two about it ;)

Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them. Also you'll find on Facebook groups my posts going back to early 2024 showing incremental progress on the project. Just a whole lot more people know about it now because it's hit a chord in the community. So it's all grown very much organically and unexpectedly.

And yes Timothy is my brother, and Avid Nexus is our family design/filmmaking studio.


Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk


Hello Thomas

Fancy meeting you here.
Welcome to the forum.

It is the wild, wild West of the Blackmagic Design world.
Sometimes it is akin to gladiators in the Colosseum.

Meet all sorts of jolly fellows here, from all parts of the world.

I hope your stay will be a pleasant one.
I will leave the lights on for you.

Cheers!
May the games begin!


Hey Leon,

Thanks for the welcome!

Now I'm initiated into the Colosseum, hopefully i can be of help :lol:
Offline

Ellory Yu

  • Posts: 4667
  • Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Dec 14, 2024 6:38 am

All you old timers here, remember this?
https://www.cined.com/craft-camera-an-i ... ra-system/
Didn’t they run away with pre-order money and got in trouble?

This Nexus is interesting but pricy for a rehoused unit. I don’t think they’re getting the P6K OG from BMD. They’re probably buying the use ones and refurbishing then rehousing with a new body. Also, Nexus is an overused brand.
URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2, BMPCC 6K. iMac Pro 27” 5K Retina, 64gb, 1Tb SSD, 12Tb M.2 NVMe TB4 DAS, 36Tb HDD DAS, Vega 56 8gb GPU/ BM Vega 56 8gb eGPU, MacOS Sequoia+DVRS 19.1.4, BM Panel & Speed Editor. Mac Mini M2 Pro 10/16 cores, Sequoia+DVRS 20
Offline

Thomas.avid

  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:24 am
  • Real Name: Thomas Boland

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Dec 14, 2024 7:15 am

Ellory Yu wrote:All you old timers here, remember this?
Didn’t they run away with pre-order money and got in trouble?

This Nexus is interesting but pricy for a rehoused unit. I don’t think they’re getting the P6K OG from BMD. They’re probably buying the use ones and refurbishing then rehousing with a new body. Also, Nexus is an overused brand.


Hi Ellory,

Just for the record, we are not using used units, that would be irresponsible.

The units are new.
Last edited by Thomas.avid on Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
Offline

ricardo marty

  • Posts: 1761
  • Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:03 am

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 12:10 am

What type of association exist between BMD and nexus ? The are using bmd 6k sensor and the cameras will record internal braw.

https://nexus-cameras.com/
DV Studio 20.| Asus ProArt PD5, 2.5 GHz i7 16-Core 64GB nvidia 3070 572.83| Apple M4 10-Core 24GB Unified RAM 512GB-Core Neural Engine | Lenovo 7x Snapdragon 78-100 12 core elite 32gb ram adreno gpu, Win 11.| Sony A6700. PreSonus AudioBox |Speed Editor
Offline

jallen0

  • Posts: 1088
  • Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:04 pm
  • Real Name: Justin Allen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 12:13 am

Their website states you also get a Davinci Resolve license with each purchase. Either Blackmagic has decided to sell them the sensors and give them a license...which would be unprecedented, or they just purchased the entire camera package from Blackmagic at a reduced reseller price ( whatever that is ) with maybe an additional discount based on volume, and they are taking those cameras apart and using them for parts for their new camera build.

This is my guess.
2019 MacPro OS 12.1, 3.2GHz 16 Core, 160GB Mem, 4TB Drive, 8TB Internal Sonnet Raid, Dual Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB
LG UF 5k, 27" Tbolt Display, 55" LG C8
Resolve Edit Keyboard, Mini Panel, US 4K Mini
Resolve Studio Ver. 17.4.3
Desktop Video 12.1
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 12:15 am

Nexus claims a relationship, but BMD hasn’t commented on this forum.
Rick Lang
Offline

jallen0

  • Posts: 1088
  • Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:04 pm
  • Real Name: Justin Allen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 12:17 am

Nexus lists a business relationship on their website...it's being an authorized Blackmagic Design Dealer in early 2024. Pretty sure that would be true but I am not sure of anything else.
2019 MacPro OS 12.1, 3.2GHz 16 Core, 160GB Mem, 4TB Drive, 8TB Internal Sonnet Raid, Dual Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB
LG UF 5k, 27" Tbolt Display, 55" LG C8
Resolve Edit Keyboard, Mini Panel, US 4K Mini
Resolve Studio Ver. 17.4.3
Desktop Video 12.1
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 12:23 am

An authorized reseller sells BMD gear under BMD’s label. That’s a far cry from rehousing parts of BMD cameras and using the bmOS in a camera branded as Nexus.
Rick Lang
Offline

Leon Benzakein

  • Posts: 1496
  • Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 2:32 am

Thomas.avid wrote:Just wanted to say, there is no need to speculate, shoot me any questions you have about the project and I'll be happy to answer them.


Well fellows, why do you not ask Thomas any questions that you may have.

He has kindly joined the conversation.

Let me start the ball rolling.

What is the thinking on having the buttons and menu screen on the top of the camera?
Ideal for hand held but not very practical when on sticks.
Television: Lighting/Cameraman, O.B. Camera Operator, Experience in EFP, EPG and ENG , Grip, Lamp Operator
Film: Grip, Lamp Operator
Theater: Lighting Designer, Light board Operator, Stage Electrician, Stage Management
Offline

Ellory Yu

  • Posts: 4667
  • Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 2:32 am

I’ll believe it when I see folks like John B and C others are using it and giving them the thumbs up. Until then, this is just talk and vapor.
URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2, BMPCC 6K. iMac Pro 27” 5K Retina, 64gb, 1Tb SSD, 12Tb M.2 NVMe TB4 DAS, 36Tb HDD DAS, Vega 56 8gb GPU/ BM Vega 56 8gb eGPU, MacOS Sequoia+DVRS 19.1.4, BM Panel & Speed Editor. Mac Mini M2 Pro 10/16 cores, Sequoia+DVRS 20
Offline

Kristian Lam

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 1069
  • Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:11 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 6:51 am

They are just rehousing the camera. There is no relationship nor will we provide any form of technical support for rehoused cameras.

Any warranty for rehoused cameras is also instantly voided.

Furthermore, all safety compliance certification that applies to the original cameras are not applicable once the product has been modified.
Offline

jallen0

  • Posts: 1088
  • Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:04 pm
  • Real Name: Justin Allen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 2:47 pm

Kristian Lam wrote:They are just rehousing the camera. There is no relationship nor will we provide any form of technical support for rehoused cameras.

Any warranty for rehoused cameras is also instantly voided.

Furthermore, all safety compliance certification that applies to the original cameras are not applicable once the product has been modified.


Thank you Kristian, and Blackmagic, for clarifying this.
2019 MacPro OS 12.1, 3.2GHz 16 Core, 160GB Mem, 4TB Drive, 8TB Internal Sonnet Raid, Dual Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB
LG UF 5k, 27" Tbolt Display, 55" LG C8
Resolve Edit Keyboard, Mini Panel, US 4K Mini
Resolve Studio Ver. 17.4.3
Desktop Video 12.1
Offline
User avatar

rick.lang

  • Posts: 18603
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:41 pm
  • Location: Victoria BC Canada

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSun Dec 15, 2024 3:17 pm

“Nothing to see people. Please move along.”
Rick Lang
Offline

Thomas.avid

  • Posts: 7
  • Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:24 am
  • Real Name: Thomas Boland

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 3:26 am

Kristian Lam wrote:They are just rehousing the camera. There is no relationship nor will we provide any form of technical support for rehoused cameras.

Any warranty for rehoused cameras is also instantly voided.

Furthermore, all safety compliance certification that applies to the original cameras are not applicable once the product has been modified.


Hi Kristian,

Thanks a lot, we appreciate you coming in to confirm this for people to dispel the various speculations which have started circulating online.

As you may know, we have explained to everyone from the beginning that we are simply using Blackmagic Design’s awesome Pocket 6K G2 recording system in the Nexus G1 (along with our own hardware), and that Blackmagic Design has no involvement with our company or the project – that’s on our website FAQ and has been on all FAQ posts made in the past :). Also yes, we are aware of these entirely reasonable conditions you have stated from the beginning – as our website also states, warranty will be by us, and we know certifications is a matter for us to organize. All good.

Many Thanks,
- Thomas
Offline

David Cherniack

  • Posts: 817
  • Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 12:26 pm

Sorry folks, some of the negativity here is unbecoming.

These guys have designed something, on paper at least, that checks a ton of boxes that other mfrs don't even list. They should be applauded for the very attempt. If it ends up that their reach exceeds their grasp, they've at least shown initiative and designed something most of us would be thrilled to have. Three cheers for them.
David
Resolve Studio latest build
Windows 11 Pro
Decklink Mini Monitor 4k
Intel i9 7960x @ 4 GHz
Thermaltake Floe Riing 360 Water Cooler
Asus x299 Prime Deluxe
64GB 3333 Corsair Dominator ram
1 EVGA RTX 3090 XC3 Card
Areca Thunderbolt3 12 drive Raid
Offline
User avatar

Adam Langdon

  • Posts: 998
  • Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:15 pm
  • Location: Ohio USA

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 2:28 pm

part of the 'hesitation' is how much of an unknown a brand new product without any track record is.

Sure, the sensor is proven, but there's much more that goes into reliability and performance. If something breaks down, what kind of support is there? I also wonder about how many fail-points are on this thing. So many locking modules can spell disaster if one is permanently bent or broken.

It is a really neat idea and it does looks very streamlined, but I think it's "too much too late."
Long-time Blackmagic User
Offline

jallen0

  • Posts: 1088
  • Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:04 pm
  • Real Name: Justin Allen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 3:19 pm

They have made a $2,000 camera into a $5,000 (all in). Most people understand that when you buy a Blackmagic camera there is limited repair work available. They understand that you can return a Blackmagic camera within the first 30 days with no issues because you purchased it from a reseller. They understand that Blackmagic is going to be there with firmware and software upgrades for their product.

None of those understandings are there for the Nexus G1. This is not "unbecoming", this is the reality of the situation. Blackmagic does not support this camera...they support their cameras. What happens if Blackmagic does like other companies have done and refused to allow upgrades on cameras that don't have supported hardware on it? Then your Nexus camera is dead in the water with no future updates and maybe even bricked.

There are a lot of things to go wrong and not many perks if you went right...especially since the Pyxis came out.
2019 MacPro OS 12.1, 3.2GHz 16 Core, 160GB Mem, 4TB Drive, 8TB Internal Sonnet Raid, Dual Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB
LG UF 5k, 27" Tbolt Display, 55" LG C8
Resolve Edit Keyboard, Mini Panel, US 4K Mini
Resolve Studio Ver. 17.4.3
Desktop Video 12.1
Offline

Jim Simon

  • Posts: 35981
  • Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:47 am

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 4:49 pm

jallen0 wrote:None of those understandings are there for the Nexus G1.
Yet. ;)
My Biases:

You NEED training.
You NEED a desktop.
You NEED a calibrated (non-computer) display.
Offline

ShaheedMalik

  • Posts: 1557
  • Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:28 am
  • Real Name: Shaheed Malik

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 7:11 pm

David Cherniack wrote:Sorry folks, some of the negativity here is unbecoming.

These guys have designed something, on paper at least, that checks a ton of boxes that other mfrs don't even list.


That's part of the problem it's been over a year now and it's still on paper. No public viewable prototypes, there is finally a shell of it but no proof of it working as displayed. It's at least a 6 months late.

No footage, nothing.
Offline

David Cherniack

  • Posts: 817
  • Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:01 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 8:00 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:
David Cherniack wrote:Sorry folks, some of the negativity here is unbecoming.

These guys have designed something, on paper at least, that checks a ton of boxes that other mfrs don't even list.


That's part of the problem it's been over a year now and it's still on paper. No public viewable prototypes, there is finally a shell of it but no proof of it working as displayed. It's at least a 6 months late.

No footage, nothing.


I applaud them for the creative idea and I think we all should hope they're able to bring it to fruition.
David
Resolve Studio latest build
Windows 11 Pro
Decklink Mini Monitor 4k
Intel i9 7960x @ 4 GHz
Thermaltake Floe Riing 360 Water Cooler
Asus x299 Prime Deluxe
64GB 3333 Corsair Dominator ram
1 EVGA RTX 3090 XC3 Card
Areca Thunderbolt3 12 drive Raid
Offline

Ellory Yu

  • Posts: 4667
  • Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostMon Dec 16, 2024 11:28 pm

rick.lang wrote:“Nothing to see people. Please move along.”

Totally Rick. +1
I give them an 8 for imaginative design on paper and marketing glossy but … No need to waste more time on adding this type the wishlist. The Pyxis Pro will be what’s on the menu by the time this even gets traction. And let’s all keep in mind that they are not making a new camera, they are just rehousing an older camera which by the time it starts delivery, there won’t be firmware updates from BMD (as it has always been).
URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2, BMPCC 6K. iMac Pro 27” 5K Retina, 64gb, 1Tb SSD, 12Tb M.2 NVMe TB4 DAS, 36Tb HDD DAS, Vega 56 8gb GPU/ BM Vega 56 8gb eGPU, MacOS Sequoia+DVRS 19.1.4, BM Panel & Speed Editor. Mac Mini M2 Pro 10/16 cores, Sequoia+DVRS 20
Offline

BrydeSorensen

  • Posts: 62
  • Joined: Sat May 18, 2024 9:00 am
  • Real Name: Bryde Sorensen

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostFri Jun 06, 2025 12:20 pm

7 months later, not many news on this.

But i noticed they've been taking pre-orders for a while...so people are paying them money?
Offline

ShaheedMalik

  • Posts: 1557
  • Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:28 am
  • Real Name: Shaheed Malik

Re: Nexus G1: The ultimate filmmaker's cinema camera?

PostSat Jun 07, 2025 5:15 pm

BrydeSorensen wrote:7 months later, not many news on this.

But i noticed they've been taking pre-orders for a while...so people are paying them money?

From the time it was originally announced by Nexus Cameras, Blackmagic has released the Pyxis 6K and soon to be Pyxis 12K. It might get released, but as of now it's still vaporware.

You are better off getting a 12K.

Return to Cinematography

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 130 guests