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Hi,

We have just released Camera v9.2. This release is for the following cameras:

1. PYXIS 6K
2. Micro Studio Camera 4K G2

PYXIS 6K


- Adds support for PYXIS Monitor
- Adds ability to be remotely controlled via Blackmagic Camera App
You will need to download the Blackmagic Camera iOS app 2.2 update to use this feature.

- Adds lens correction metadata for L-Mount lenses to Blackmagic RAW files
Metadata is recorded in file. Support for actually correcting the files in Post coming later.

- Changes behavior of the lock switch to only affect the builtin PYXIS touchscreen
- Improves battery performance for longer run times
- Improves tethering compatibility with iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro models

Micro Studio Camera 4K G2

- Improves gyro accuracy
- Fixes issue where a black horizontal line is seen on the SDI and HDMI output

Lots of great updates here. Thanks!

This must mean the PYXIS Monitor is shipping. Awesome!

And, that's cool that you can control the camera from the Camera App on the phone. Will that be coming to more cameras soon?

I think the change to the lock switch is also a huge deal. Small things here but important ones.

Kristian Lam wrote:- Adds lens correction metadata for L-Mount lenses to Blackmagic RAW files
Metadata is recorded in file. Support for actually correcting the files in Post coming later.

This is very exciting, but is it possible to bypass this lens metadata in Resolve?

How much exactly does this update extend battery life?

I have a sinking feeling that the cinema 6k is going the way of the Ursa G2 and just get completely left behind:'(

Just to be clear, I don't feel any customer has the right the new features (and I think Blackmagic is excellent about updates: just look at the Pocket 4k which received like five years of updates), just would be nice.

Sean van Berlo wrote:I have a sinking feeling that the cinema 6k is going the way of the Ursa G2 and just get completely left behind:'(

Just to be clear, I don't feel any customer has the right the new features (and I think Blackmagic is excellent about updates: just look at the Pocket 4k which received like five years of updates), just would be nice.

This firmware only adds monitor support. The Cinema 6K does not support it.

What? Can't you read the firmware text and see the lens correction and remote viewing options?

...and that the pyxis got one more resolution to choose from a couple of updates ago.

Yes, seems to become a niche product. Very sad as there are options for improvement. For example, it would be nice to have the option to turn off generating proxies, and anamorphic desqueeze is still not convenient.

I'm curious. As my own BMPCC6KG2 is still on v8.6, is there a list somewhere that shows what version is the latest for each model?

I mean, yes. I have tried downloading the Camera Setup for windows and when I connect my camera to the computer and open the Camera Setup App. I see the camera. I can click it and I get a long list of network settings I cannot really use as when I use the camera, I have it pretty much 100% of the time connected to an external SSD because internal cards are just tooo damn expensive. So I have never bothered trying to hook it up to a phone or network cable for those features.

I do see up at the top "Software: Version 8.6". And I see no option to update. So... am I supposed to read between the lines here to understand that 8.6 is the very latest firmware update?

That's correct. If you're not prompted to update you already have the latest firmware available for that camera. Version 8.6 and 8.7 are beta versions with features that will hopefully be out of beta in a 9.X version.

BlackMagic knows they launched the BMCC6K? All the things that have PYXIS firmware can put it in the BMCC6k, I do not understand why not update it too, it seems as if they did not exist and are practically the same camera.

roger.magnusson wrote:That's correct. If you're not prompted to update you already have the latest firmware available for that camera. Version 8.6 and 8.7 are beta versions with features that will hopefully be out of beta in a 9.X version.

Okay great, 9.2 release is out. So when are we going to get 9.x version that has the features promised in 8.6 and 8.7 beta, but in General Availability form? I really don’t want to have beta firmware on my camera forever.

Ellory Yu wrote:

roger.magnusson wrote:That's correct. If you're not prompted to update you already have the latest firmware available for that camera. Version 8.6 and 8.7 are beta versions with features that will hopefully be out of beta in a 9.X version.

Okay great, 9.2 release is out. So when are we going to get 9.x version that has the features promised in 8.6 and 8.7 beta, but in General Availability form? I really don’t want to have beta firmware on my camera forever.

As we never got a clear answer from BMD, I assume it's part of 9.x versions already.

Shiiro wrote:

Ellory Yu wrote:

roger.magnusson wrote:That's correct. If you're not prompted to update you already have the latest firmware available for that camera. Version 8.6 and 8.7 are beta versions with features that will hopefully be out of beta in a 9.X version.

Okay great, 9.2 release is out. So when are we going to get 9.x version that has the features promised in 8.6 and 8.7 beta, but in General Availability form? I really don’t want to have beta firmware on my camera forever.

As we never got a clear answer from BMD, I assume it's part of 9.x versions already.

Which one? It’s definitely not 9.2. I’m interested for BMPCC 6K.

I’m sure they’ll announce it when they release firmware that has new features for the 6KFF. They’re very hush hush about their release schedule.

To answer some questions about the releases 8.6 and 8.7, see below:

Shiiro wrote:Hello fellows,

like many, I have been wondering what happens with the 8.6 (beta) release and found out that it's probably been rolled into the release 9 and onward.

Check kristian Lam's words:

HERE

Kristian Lam wrote:Hi,

We've just released Camera 8.7 Public Beta. This adds the proxy live syncing support to Cinema Camera 6K and URSA Broadcast G2. All the stuff in 8.6 has also been rolled into the 8.7 release.

In the meantime, please keep the feedback coming. We may not respond to every post, but we do read them.

AND HERE

Kristian Lam wrote:

OwenCrowley wrote:@kristian I Totally understand the priority of issuing a version that supports the URSA Cine 12k, but now that v9 has been released, what is the status of v8.7?

8.7 will never exist as a formal release. What is going to happen is that the changes that you guys are seeing in 8.7 will roll into a future release, so at this point it will be a post 9.x release once we are confident that all the issues are addressed.

Both posts belonging to this topic: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=203870

So, I assume we just have to DL the latest release of Blackmagic Camera, which is the 9.1.3 version, to get the 8.6 one.

Shiiro wrote:Hello fellows,
like many, I have been wondering what happens with the 8.6 (beta) release and found out that it's probably been rolled into the release 9 and onward.
……
So, I assume we just have to DL the latest release of Blackmagic Camera, which is the 9.1.3 version, to get the 8.6 one.

I don’t follow coz 9.1.3 doesn’t update the BMPCC 6K that were rolled out in the 8.x betas. I think it will be much clearer if we can have some ideas as to when we shall expect those to be available as GA on the cameras that were previously mentioned. Hopefully that not going to be another year.

Seems to me that they’d announce all the 8.x features in a new release once they leave beta. That would likely be a 9.x release.

I’m assuming that 8.x beta firmware isn’t included in a 9.x production release - but I could be wrong!

Well, I once tried a 9.x release and it updated my BMPCC 6K with the 8.6 version.
So, I assume the 9 and up releases do include the 8.6 and we will never see a standalone 8.6 version.

Kristian Lam himself from BMD mentioned that.

I guess that means 8.6 is out of beta. I would have expected a release note somewhere stating that. I must admit I don’t totally understand their rationale for this release numbering scheme.

Their entire firmware process is a messy swamp. Sadly.

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At first I thought perhaps Philippe was mistaken. But it's true, 9.2 does come with 8.6 for the 4K/6K pockets. This was not the case before. It seems contrary to what they said earlier, this is from the 8.7 Beta thread (for BMCC6K) [https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=203870&start=50#p1078238]

Kristian Lam wrote:8.7 will never exist as a formal release. What is going to happen is that the changes that you guys are seeing in 8.7 will roll into a future release, so at this point it will be a post 9.x release once we are confident that all the issues are addressed.

There's been no announcement at all. Is it a mistake? Or did they have to make a tough decision and deem 8.6 good enough for production?

Edit: They always remove the old beta downloads once a production release is published. But the betas for 8.6 and 8.7 are still available for download. I think this 8.6 firmware for BMPCCs in the Blackmagic Camera 9.2 Update is just a mistake.

roger.magnusson wrote:
Edit: They always remove the old beta downloads once a production release is published. But the betas for 8.6 and 8.7 are still available for download. I think this 8.6 firmware for BMPCCs in the Blackmagic Camera 9.2 Update is just a mistake.

Every Camera update contains the latest update for every camera.

Even if it’s beta firmware and this is a normal release?

Still confusing. I do not want to install beta firmware on my camera at all. So, this should be really simple for BMD to clarify. There’s 2 basic and simple question to answer here because right now I don’t see all those features and functions listed for BMPCC G1/G2 etc on 9.2. So…

1. Are the features and functions implemented in the 18.6 and/or 18.7 betas now generally available and will be able to update the BMPCC 6K OG/G2/etc cameras?

2. If so (#1 is yes), is it part of 9.2 firmware release?

Please, BMD, clarify because we need to know.

The release notes for 9.2 says that the new features are for PYXIS 6K, so NO, they are not available yet for the older cameras.

ShaheedMalik wrote:

roger.magnusson wrote:
Edit: They always remove the old beta downloads once a production release is published. But the betas for 8.6 and 8.7 are still available for download. I think this 8.6 firmware for BMPCCs in the Blackmagic Camera 9.2 Update is just a mistake.

Every Camera update contains the latest update for every camera.

I know that, but until recently they have never added beta firmware to the non-beta download. That seems to have started with 9.0 and since there's no way for users to tell that you're installing a beta version this could use some clarification.

Kristian Lam wrote:The release notes for 9.2 says that the new features are for PYXIS 6K, so NO, they are not available yet for the older cameras.

Thank you Kristian for the clarification.

Kristian Lam wrote:The release notes for 9.2 says that the new features are for PYXIS 6K, so NO, they are not available yet for the older cameras.

That's what the release note says, good.

but can you please confirm the 9.2 release also includes all other releases ? or at least the 8.6 / 8.7 ?
Because this is what we found out when updating our BMPCC 6K with the 9.2 version and there is no 8.6 officially released.

Thx in advance.

Seems like there’s no non-beta release that describes the features in the 8.6/8.7 betas. From this one would guess that those features are still in beta. Is this true?

AS BMD doesn't communicate clearly on those releases, we can assume they are still in beta.
The reason why I still did not upgrade the firmware of both my BMPCC 6K till now.

The odd part is that they’re included in the released versions of firmware - aka 9.1 and 9.2.

Exactly. Anyone who buys a Pocket camera and downloads the latest Camera release (currently 9.2) will get the beta firmware. Without there being any mention whatsoever that the firmware included for the pockets is a beta version. Surely this can't be intended? The only way to understand that it's beta is to happen upon the actual beta download, version 8.6, which has the release notes.

Users would have to know to download the latest 7.X or whatever to get the non-beta.

Thanks for the gyro fix for the Micro Studio, I'll be testing it out this afternoon, hopefully it works like it should... If so thanks again.

Thx for the details.
The last stable release v. 8 to be downloaded for BMPCC 6K is the 8.1, so far what I have and wort with.

roger.magnusson wrote:Exactly. Anyone who buys a Pocket camera and downloads the latest Camera release (currently 9.2) will get the beta firmware. Without there being any mention whatsoever that the firmware included for the pockets is a beta version. Surely this can't be intended? The only way to understand that it's beta is to happen upon the actual beta download, version 8.6, which has the release notes.

Users would have to know to download the latest 7.X or whatever to get the non-beta.

That is why I wanted to know what exactly is in 9.2 that is for the older cameras, and if it is the beta versions of those features then I don’t want to install 9.2. I want GA firmware only. I don’t want to be beta testing while I am using the camera for pro work. I’m sure neither does most of you. I do want those new firmware features listed in 8.6 and 8.7 for the Pocket 6K OG and was willing to wait until GA, not beta sneak in on 9.2.

Kristian Lam wrote:The release notes for 9.2 says that the new features are for PYXIS 6K, so NO, they are not available yet for the older cameras.

Going back to Kristian’s post, he specifically said that 9.2 was for the Pyxis and he even said that No it didn’t have anything else for older cameras which makes me believe the betas are not included. But you see that is still vague and causing folks to speculate or make statements that contradicts Kristian’s post.

I thought it was already established that 8.6/8.7 IS in 9.2. Perhaps someone is willing to roll back to 8.1 on their pocket and then install 9.2 and see if it offers an upgrade to 8.6/8.7.

I did, that's why I'm talking about it. If you download 9.2 it will prompt you to update a pocket camera to 8.6 beta (but it won't tell you it's beta).

It seems people are either fine with it or don't want to believe it for some reason.

roger.magnusson wrote:
It seems people are either fine with it or don't want to believe it for some reason.

I’m not fine with it because I don’t want to find out the hard way on set if something went south because I used a beta firmware (that’s why it’s beta because it is yet to pass QA). It’s also not that we don’t want to believe it for any reason other than the lack of transparency from BMD if they indeed included 8.6 beta on 9.2 and why they considered doing such a thing. Did they already blessed 8.6 on 9.2 for the older cameras not mentioned in their release notes?

I’m thinking that’s likely. That 8.6/8.7 is out of beta but they didn’t mention it in any release notes. That’s sure less harmful than the thought that a beta has “escaped” into a release product by accident months ago and they never did anything about it.

Joe Shapiro wrote:I’m thinking that…8.6/8.7 is out of beta but they didn’t mention it in any release notes.

Nope, not out of beta. On Dec 22, after running the v9.2 installer, which installed v8.7 on my Cine 6k with a critical v8.7 bug intact, I checked with BlackMagic support. Their response was "Our development team is still working internally, and we currently do not have an estimate as to when the full release will occur."

Hi,
could you tell us what the critical bug is, please?

thank you,
Stephan

OwenCrowley wrote:

Joe Shapiro wrote:I’m thinking that…8.6/8.7 is out of beta but they didn’t mention it in any release notes.

Nope, not out of beta. On Dec 22, after running the v9.2 installer, which installed v8.7 on my Cine 6k with a critical v8.7 bug intact, I checked with BlackMagic support. Their response was "Our development team is still working internally, and we currently do not have an estimate as to when the full release will occur."

Wow. So BMD support confirmed that the betas have “escaped” into a release product by accident months ago and BMD hasn’t released a corrected version. Sigh.

A quick question. Am I right:

bcc6kff last final firmware before beta 8.7 is 8.3.2?
bmpcc4k last final firmware before beta 8.6 is 8.1?

I'm asking because with the latest and greatest I'm having some issues and would like to stick with the last finals for the time being. And who knows, when the next final will come...

Thank you for your help,
Stephan

Hi Stephan. My Cinema 6kFF is running v8.3.2 without problems. The critical bug that I experience with v8.7 is that the camera no longer recognizes my Angelbird AV PRO SE 1TB Cfexpress 2 B card.

Thank you for your response - and another question. Does 8.3.2 support the smooth option for the viewfinder? This option is missing on 8.7.

On my bmcc6kff the camera looses connection to my nvme drive (tilta housing) after about 1h. It runs smooth with older versions. And maybe it is just wishful thinking, but does the camera start/boot faster with the older versions? At least it appears to me like that.

they may need a whole year to fix the bugs in the beta firmware of bmcc6k，now 6 months past, we need to wait another 6 months to get a new stable firmware. i guess~

Can anyone, who has a Tokina ATX EF lens and the 8.6/8.7 beta on 9.2 installed on their BMPCC 6K, verify if the electronic iris is working, essentially fixed or is it still broken?