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Any pc users concerned about this?

Prores is pretty much useless on a good com0uter like a pc...for a fisher price com0uter like a mac protes is awesome...tastes for hardware aside I would like to know if in fact dnxhd is a no go for the new 4k camera and if so why is the reason for that? Why exclude a whole demigraphic?

Apolagies for typos...on the move on my note 2...

Well the fact that DnxHD doesnt support 4kb probably has a large amount to do with it....

On the PC you'll have to use RAW which I'm sure is a drag.

ProRes can also be read on a PC in resolve so you could always trans-code as a stopgap if your mighty PC cant take RAW till AVID catches up...

My pc is powerful enough to run anything but it just means an added work around and new learning curve...what the heck is a stopgap?

ungovernedreason wrote:My pc is powerful enough to run anything but it just means an added work around and new learning curve...what the heck is a stopgap?

A stopgap is something used or done temporarily until a better way can be implemented.

At the moment BM can't give DnxHD (there's a clue in the name there) in 4k as the codec doesn't support it, therefore you can either move to a RAW workflow, or a transcode workflow.

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:

ungovernedreason wrote:My pc is powerful enough to run anything but it just means an added work around and new learning curve...what the heck is a stopgap?

A stopgap is something used or done temporarily until a better way can be implemented.

At the moment BM can't give DnxHD (there's a clue in the name there) in 4k as the codec doesn't support it, therefore you can either move to a RAW workflow, or a transcode workflow.

Or you could buy a "fisher Price" computer

Id be happy with dnxhd at the same as version one but the benifit would be the lack of rolling shutter and the larger sencer. Or black magic could stop being apple fanpeople and use a different more universal codec all together.

ungovernedreason wrote:Id be happy with dnxhd at the same as version one but the benifit would be the lack of rolling shutter and the larger sencer. Or black magic could stop being apple fanpeople and use a different more universal codec all together.

There is no-fanboyism at work here, that is all in your head.

THere is a universal open source codec they are using CinemaDNG. Where they can they are offering the industry standard codecs for non-raw footage ProRes and DnxHD. DnxHD isn't capable of being offered at the cameras resolution so it isn't currently scheduled as a launch codec.

There are a couple of other codecs but most require licenses to use, which cost money, which would push up the cost of the camera (as each camera would have to have a licenses fee paid on it). None really have the industry penetration of ProRes or DnxHD.

Pete Proniewicz-Brooks wrote:

ungovernedreason wrote:Id be happy with dnxhd at the same as version one but the benifit would be the lack of rolling shutter and the larger sencer. Or black magic could stop being apple fanpeople and use a different more universal codec all together.

There is no-fanboyism at work here, that is all in your head.

THere is a universal open source codec they are using CinemaDNG. Where they can they are offering the industry standard codecs for non-raw footage ProRes and DnxHD. DnxHD isn't capable of being offered at the cameras resolution so it isn't currently scheduled as a launch codec.

There are a couple of other codecs but most require licenses to use, which cost money, which would push up the cost of the camera (as each camera would have to have a licenses fee paid on it). None really have the industry penetration of ProRes or DnxHD.

however, the ProRes cannot be handled by the bigger resolve linux systems, where the DNxHD can... Is an oversight IMHO