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Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:57 pm
by hendryxdp
The Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 isn't that old of a product to not get codec updates. I realize that the Shuttle 2 isn't that expensive of a product and as a company you have no obligation to supply your products with the latest technology, but it makes me hesitate to invest in Blackmagic products if they only have a 2 year shelf life.

Couldn't Blackmagic create an upgrade for the Shuttle 1 that customers could purchase? This way if I want to purchase a Shuttle 2 I could use both recorders on a 2 camera shoot.

What is Blackmagic's reasoning of not updating the Shuttle 1 with Apple Pro Res?

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm
by timgregory
Obviously I can't speak on behalf of BMD but from memory I don't think they anticipated the call for codecs on the Hyperdecks as it was marketed for its uncompressed recording abilities, hence the hardware of the Shuttle 1 isn't capable.
The Shuttle 2 was then brought out in response to this demand.

This may not be correct.

Tim

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:36 pm
by hendryxdp
When I purchased the deck it was for the sole purpose of shooting uncompressed video and I had no expectations of getting codec updates. However, now that they exist on Hyperdeck 2 I would of loved to have them on the product that I own. I'm looking for a better reason / answer other than "Sorry the Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 won't be getting the upgrade to record Apple Pro Res."

If its a hardware issue than it is what it is, but it's unfortunate that when they designed the recorder they didn't have the foresight to create it to be upgraded with new codecs.

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:01 pm
by Aaron Scheiner
So you're unhappy because a device you bought for a specific purpose, and which fulfills that purpose doesn't perform an additional function that you weren't expecting, didn't pay for and weren't lead to believe it would perform ? Have you ever owned a Sony product ?


Just buy the Shuttle 2... they're amazing little devices and they're incredibly cheap. They're only marginally more expensive than Blackmagic's SDI/HDMI converters and they effectively do the same thing with recording functionality (using codecs that I'm sure Apple charges a premium for... yes, codecs need to be licensed, it costs money... costs that were probably built into the cost of the Shuttle 2s from day one).

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:35 pm
by Kristian Lam
hendryxdp wrote:Couldn't Blackmagic create an upgrade for the Shuttle 1 that customers could purchase? This way if I want to purchase a Shuttle 2 I could use both recorders on a 2 camera shoot.

What is Blackmagic's reasoning of not updating the Shuttle 1 with Apple Pro Res?


Hi

The HyperDeck Shuttle 1 is not capable of being upgraded to support Apple ProRes. This is a hardware limitation. It will only do Uncompress 10-bit 4:2:2 video recording as previously advertised.

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:49 am
by eventproducent
Ok, got it. Than i still can use it as an hdmi<->sdi format converter :D

Re: Hyperdeck Shuttle 1 not getting Apple Pro Res?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:28 pm
by Peter J. DeCrescenzo
eventproducent wrote:Ok, got it. Than i still can use it as an hdmi<->sdi format converter :D


That's what I bought my HdS v.1 for (got it cheap, too)!

It stays Velcro'd to the back of my 21" HDTV monitor for use when AC power is available. Does the HD-SDI to HDMI conversion, and provides HD-SDI loop-through, too. Works great.

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