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Has anyone every used one of these: a CFast to MSATA adapter:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273000124720?ul_noapp=true

Wow, that's a hefty price point! Why not buy the SSD recorder from BM instead?

I'm using one of these successfully for far less:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CFast-to-eSATA ... m570.l1313

But it only works from the rear slot, my setup looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8cg1pnb1w5ob99x/SSD_linke_Seite.jpg?dl=0

It's expensive, but it doesn't require a USB power source and it's a lot smaller on the camera (useful for gimbal setups, in my opinion).

I'm just...concerned about buying something like this from China. In my experience, it either works well or breaks after one use, and that's a lot of money to gamble on a possibly fragile piece of kit.

I've tried to find an eSata to mSata adapter so I can take the cable you posted and make my own adapter, but I havn't found anything for that yet.

I doubt you’d get power that way.

According to the company (contacted through ebay) it needs no external power supply.

I was referring to eSATA adaptation.

And I found out about this today - for C200, but no reason couldn't be used for a Ursa Mini.

https://store.n.ki/products/solidpod

I think it should work. Please report if you buy it.

Might not work. The other breakout cables needed 5V power to be supplied to the SSD via USB. The C200 must have sufficient power to run the m.2 cards.

But please let us know. I also found this interesting as it frees up the 12G SDI ports in the back. Great for livestream

Is there any USB connector on it for power supply if it doesn't work?

Uli Plank wrote:Wow, that's a hefty price point! Why not buy the SSD recorder from BM instead?

I'm using one of these successfully for far less:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CFast-to-eSATA ... m570.l1313

But it only works from the rear slot, my setup looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8cg1pnb1w5ob99x/SSD_linke_Seite.jpg?dl=0

Hi Uli, i had similar setup, but work on both slot, also in dual ssd setup (i had 4 ssd) to record uncompressed raw 60p. do you have checked different sata adapter?

No, I didn't.
I needed the setup soon and since I can do the occasional uncompressed higher frame rates in combination with a CFast card in the front slot, I didn't look further. Until now it was very reliable, and I have two of those enclosures fixed on the back of batteries with Velcro, it's quite convenient.

I can also pull the SSD from the enclosure (that's why I cut off the top) and put it into an USB-C adapter for reading.

Which adapter cables did you get?

Uli Plank wrote:
Which adapter cables did you get?

one arrive to me with UMP, i bought used, other two i bought produced from italian guy on ebay be cause are very thin to rig better with other cable. but all work fine in every slot. i can tell you that i see that startech must be first powered then connected the sata cable or sometimes ursa not see ssd box in no one slot. If you powerup and then connect, all work fine.

Thanks for the quick answer. Yes, I noticed that about powering the SSD up first.
I'll give one of those from Italy a try.

Michael Odhiambo wrote:Might not work. The other breakout cables needed 5V power to be supplied to the SSD via USB. The C200 must have sufficient power to run the m.2 cards.

But please let us know. I also found this interesting as it frees up the 12G SDI ports in the back. Great for livestream

MSATA seems to need less power than a full SSD (I think it's 3 volts vs 5 volts), and the CFast adapter provides enough power for the MSATA.

I like the Solidpod design and the fact that it can use two MSATA drives so you can off-load one with the DIT without stopping the shoot.

It's still expensive - What's the cost/benefit compared to just CFast cards?

Sandisk Extreme Pro 512 CFast - $999

SolidPod: $399
Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB MSATA: $259 (x2)
SolidPod Reader: $189
Total: $1086

So for just a touch more than a 512 CFast card, you get 2TB and the ability to off-load with a DIT mid-shoot.

Add another $399 if you want two SolidPods for uncompressed 60p.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

The Italian guy is still offering the cables and he has a M-SATA solution for 80 € too.

P.S. There he is, see below.
And he confirms that M-SATA can be powered from the CFast slots, but not the larger SSDs.

Why just not to use cctech double cfast to double SSD adapter? I have it and it is brilliant, mount this between camera and battery plate and there is no problem with powering, is is turning on when the camera is turned on. It is then just a solid part of a camera. It has two short cables to both cfast slots - cable lenght is designed for ursa mini. I just ordered the second one for my second ursa mini, i was using this a year now and no problems. Ot cost arpund 350usd and you can use two ssd for 60p raw uncompressed. Here is a review:

Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

How do we get in touch with the Man from Italy (not to be confused with the Woman from Italy, for Night Vale fans)?

michaeldhead wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

How do we get in touch with the Man from Italy (not to be confused with the Woman from Italy, for Night Vale fans)?

Michael, just email me at marian_ital(at)yahoo.it. Thank you!

Marian Munteanu wrote:

michaeldhead wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

How do we get in touch with the Man from Italy (not to be confused with the Woman from Italy, for Night Vale fans)?

Michael, just email me at marian_ital@yahoo.it. Thank you!

I'm will when I'm ready to order - one question - the picture above shows a CFast adapter going into what looks like a regular SSD - is that an MSATA enclosure?

michaeldhead wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

Michael, just email me at marian_ital@yahoo.it. Thank you!

I'm will when I'm ready to order - one question - the picture above shows a CFast adapter going into what looks like a regular SSD - is that an MSATA enclosure?

Exactly Michael, it's a modded msata housing. For more technical info email me.

i bought from him different cable, classic esata to cfast, work fine from 4 months, high stress, dual recording on long cable, all perfect.
he give me assistance, quality and speed. thumb UP

carlomacchiavello wrote:i bought from him different cable, classic esata to cfast, work fine from 4 months, high stress, dual recording on long cable, all perfect.
he give me assistance, quality and speed. thumb UP

Grazie Carlo!

This is the setup I used when I rent the ursa mini:

Amazon listings:
CFAST eSATA DATA Breakout Cable - $56
StarTech.com 2.5" External Hard Drive Enclosure - $31
-(comes with a USB to DC power adapter)
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III - $123

Power - Amazon listings:
Ainope
10000mAh Portable Charger - $25
-I also use this to power my Blackmagic SDI to HDMI converter at the same time on my shoulder rig

I've used this setup for over a year now with no problems. I'm interested in seeing how the NKI adapter performs since it doesn't require external power.
But I will do more research to see if I can buy an enclosure for the m2 sata and just use my current breakout cable. That way I don't need to spend $300 bucks lol

TeryWilson wrote:This is the setup I used when I rent the ursa mini:

Amazon listings:
CFAST eSATA DATA Breakout Cable - $56
StarTech.com 2.5" External Hard Drive Enclosure - $31
-(comes with a USB to DC power adapter)
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III - $123

Power - Amazon listings:
Ainope
10000mAh Portable Charger - $25
-I also use this to power my Blackmagic SDI to HDMI converter at the same time on my shoulder rig

I've used this setup for over a year now with no problems. I'm interested in seeing how the NKI adapter performs since it doesn't require external power.
But I will do more research to see if I can buy an enclosure for the m2 sata and just use my current breakout cable. That way I don't need to spend $300 bucks lol

Tery, you can use an m.2 drive inside enclosure but! You still need to power it someway. In the picture I posted above you can see that the power cable comes from cfast housing, so no need for external power. Your breakout cable does not handle power, only data signals! Also, your cable has eSATA connector, you can't directly use it on an ssd or m.2 enclosure.

Ah makes sense now, thanks for clarifying. I have a guy that can make me a cable so I'll discuss this setup with him to see if he can modify my cable so then I can buy an m.2 enclosure to test.

TeryWilson wrote:Ah makes sense now, thanks for clarifying. I have a guy that can make me a cable so I'll discuss this setup with him to see if he can modify my cable so then I can buy an m.2 enclosure to test.

He can't! The cfast housing is made in a way that if you try to open it you destroy it.

@Tery
Why not go straight for the M.SATA solution offered by Marian?
It will supply power and is far cheaper than the Chinese one.

Uli Plank wrote:@Tery
Why not go straight for the M.SATA solution offered by Marian?
It will supply power and is far cheaper than the Chinese one.

I sent him an email and I'm awaiting a response. Until then I'm planning a backup plan lol

Marian Munteanu wrote:

carlomacchiavello wrote:i bought from him different cable, classic esata to cfast, work fine from 4 months, high stress, dual recording on long cable, all perfect.
he give me assistance, quality and speed. thumb UP

Grazie Carlo!

I emailed you for pricing and shipping info. sent from teryfilms [at] gmail.com

TeryWilson wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:

carlomacchiavello wrote:i bought from him different cable, classic esata to cfast, work fine from 4 months, high stress, dual recording on long cable, all perfect.
he give me assistance, quality and speed. thumb UP

Grazie Carlo!

I emailed you for pricing and shipping info. sent from teryfilms [at] gmail.com

Tery, I asnwered you, check your spam! Thanks!

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

Yesterday I used my mSata adapter for a shoot and had no issues. It worked great. Top it off I didn't need external power and I used a 1tb Samsung 860 evo mSata ssd with it. He even made my cable length exactly the size I wanted it!
Used with an Ursa mini 4k camera and Canon c200.
THANKS Marian!!!!

TeryWilson wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:Here's the guy from Italy!
Guys, if you want to spend ~$400 just take BMD recorder! Otherwise it's a simple adapter...
My msata solution works just fine on c200 and URSA cameras, has slim cables so you can close the screen. And I sell it under 100eur shipped.
This version uses msata ssd drives inside an 2.5" msata adapter (basically became a standard 2.5" ssd), takes power from camera, and you can have 2-3-4 msata housing to swap them on the fly!

Yesterday I used my mSata adapter for a shoot and had no issues. It worked great. Top it off I didn't need external power and I used a 1tb Samsung 860 evo mSata ssd with it. He even made my cable length exactly the size I wanted it!
Used with an Ursa mini 4k camera and Canon c200.
THANKS Marian!!!!

Thank you for your feedback Tery!

Yeah, and thanks for letting us know!

Marian - Any cameras that you know of that don't work with the CFast to Sata connection?

I have a Cion, there's a Pak-adapt-CFast adaptor, and a 'Not supported in camera' Pak-adapt-eSata adaptor.

The Aja PakMedia is a priced as silly as CFast, and is just an mSata drive in a rugged housing.

I'm still wondering why BMD ever swapped from SSD's to CFast, when the cameras got larger

Stewart Fairweather wrote:Marian - Any cameras that you know of that don't work with the CFast to Sata connection?

I have a Cion, there's a Pak-adapt-CFast adaptor, and a 'Not supported in camera' Pak-adapt-eSata adaptor.

The Aja PakMedia is a priced as silly as CFast, and is just an mSata drive in a rugged housing.

I'm still wondering why BMD ever swapped from SSD's to CFast, when the cameras got larger

No, maybe the one is arri but not sure. I've heard that ARRI works only with sandisk cards.

I'd love to get my hands on a CFast to Msata converter, how can I get one? CFast cards are still crazy expensive and I need to start shooting RAW 4k.

I appreciate that this is an old thread but I wanted to avoid starting a new one if possible.

Thanks.

igizzit wrote:I'd love to get my hands on a CFast to Msata converter, how can I get one? CFast cards are still crazy expensive and I need to start shooting RAW 4k.

I appreciate that this is an old thread but I wanted to avoid starting a new one if possible.

Thanks.

Igizzit, just drop me a message at marian_ital(at)yahoo.it.

This may be the only time this P4K owner isn't jealous of Ursa owners.

Marian Munteanu wrote:

igizzit wrote:I'd love to get my hands on a CFast to Msata converter, how can I get one? CFast cards are still crazy expensive and I need to start shooting RAW 4k.

I appreciate that this is an old thread but I wanted to avoid starting a new one if possible.

Thanks.

Igizzit, just drop me a message at marian_ital(at)yahoo.it.

I sent you an email. Hope you're still making these!

greglory wrote:

Marian Munteanu wrote:

igizzit wrote:I'd love to get my hands on a CFast to Msata converter, how can I get one? CFast cards are still crazy expensive and I need to start shooting RAW 4k.

I appreciate that this is an old thread but I wanted to avoid starting a new one if possible.

Thanks.

Igizzit, just drop me a message at marian_ital(at)yahoo.it.

I sent you an email. Hope you're still making these!

Check your spam Greg!

joe12south wrote:This may be the only time this P4K owner isn't jealous of Ursa owners.

Are you sure?
Dual recording cdng uncompressed or braw on same camera (I just not update over my Ursa Mini Pro)
Dual recording on dual ssd is possible with Marian adapter (I’m owner from 18 months and work fine) with double ssd.
I tested only for experiment, for me 3:1 and 5:1 are over that I need, useful for vfx to reconstruct scene and photogrammetry.
most of common shooting now are braw q0 and 5:1 and quality is insane

Ps I had also pocket4k and I think is excellent sister for Ursa Mini Pro.


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I haven't tried it yet, but how about this:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CFAST-to-SSD ... 4045985033
Has anyone tried one of these?

I use the CCTech CFast to SSD on my URSA Mini 4.6K, and is excellent. The only problem is that the door has to be open while in use, and it takes up more space on the rig.

What about that?

Neil-G wrote:I haven't tried it yet, but how about this:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CFAST-to-SSD ... 4045985033
Has anyone tried one of these?

I use the CCTech CFast to SSD on my URSA Mini 4.6K, and is excellent. The only problem is that the door has to be open while in use, and it takes up more space on the rig.

Yea that's normal for the door to be open. Doesn't bother me. I have the same exact one in the ebay link for my 4.6k Been using it for over a year now and love it

I use Marian's adapter from since two years, and work like a charms with UMP g1

carlomacchiavello wrote:I use Marian's adapter from since two years, and work like a charms with UMP g1

Mutual I started off with his. Used it for a year with no problems. Then I bought the new upgraded ver mentioned. I like how Marian customized my cable length for me too.