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Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:54 pm
by Ben Tobin
I just had my first real shoot with my camera two days ago and I only just now noticed these sort of pale uniform lines in the bright highlights of the window. The lines are pretty light but I definitely see them there. Just wondering what this might be.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:05 pm
by Luke Armstrong
Similar to this? viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8725

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:08 pm
by Ben Tobin
No the lines are horizontal and there are lots of them...almost like zebra stripes. They're kind of a pale grey in color.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:23 pm
by Tom
bztobin wrote:I just had my first real shoot with my camera two days ago and I only just now noticed these sort of pale uniform lines in the bright highlights of the window. The lines are pretty light but I definitely see them there. Just wondering what this might be.



could you share a picture? and possibly a raw file showing the problem?

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:35 am
by Ben Tobin
I shot on prores actually. At 400 iso. I've been trying to get a screenshot up but it says the image is too large. I'll try and shrink them. They are quite feint so I'll darken one of the images. In these shots the lines appear in the windows.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:15 am
by ungovernedreason
Symptom of debaying?

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:15 am
by sean mclennan
wow, they are VERY faint...but I see them.

You are definitely on the edge of clipping if that's not already clipped...so I would think that' some sort of distortion from the clipping. Like the black circles we saw before?

When you look at this scene on the BMCC, what is your zebra set too? 100% is that area clipping?

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:23 am
by RTCC
Looks like blinds.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:25 am
by Luke Armstrong
They look like clipped highlights graded down. If you grade down highlights in Prores you'll see all sorts of crap. They're not blinds because the light [upper screen right] is suffering from them too.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:46 pm
by Ben Tobin
Yeah I think the Ebras may have indicated I was clipping. I managed to make the lines go away in post by making the whites brighter. Lost some window detail but better than having weird lines.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:23 pm
by Tom
bztobin wrote:Yeah I think the Ebras may have indicated I was clipping. I managed to make the lines go away in post by making the whites brighter. Lost some window detail but better than having weird lines.



If it was clipping, then there is no valid data that can be recovered from that area. Trying to recover anything, especially from a compressed source, is bound to introduce artefacts.

Re: Lines in highlights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:13 pm
by Kholi Hicks
What are you using to process your footage?