Importing EDL into Resolve

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Importing EDL into Resolve

PostThu Nov 30, 2023 9:33 am

Hello

I'm trying to import a simple EDL file that looks like this:

Code: Select all
TITLE: test_selects
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME

001  AX       A     C        00:00:13:11 00:00:13:23 01:00:00:00 01:00:00:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

002  AX       A     C        00:00:14:09 00:00:15:08 01:00:00:12 01:00:01:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

003  AX       A     C        00:00:16:03 00:00:18:04 01:00:01:11 01:00:03:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

004  AX       A     C        00:00:19:02 00:00:20:22 01:00:03:12 01:00:05:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav


The audio.wav file is already present in the bin where I'm importing.

This is what happens:

1. I right click in the bin -> Timelines -> Import -> AAF/EDL...
2. Open the edl file on my drive
3. I get the Load EDL... window and hit ok
=> nothing happens from here on

Normally, I know I should get another window which allows me to select in which folders to find the linked files, but Resolve doesn't show anything else from there...

Any ideas?
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostThu Nov 30, 2023 1:01 pm

Put a video clip in the first event
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 7:54 am

Thanks for the reply!

I did that:

TITLE: test_selects
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME

001 AX V C 00:00:13:11 00:00:13:23 01:00:00:00 01:00:00:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: Screen Recording 2022-10-13 at 17.28.21.mov

002 AX A C 00:00:13:11 00:00:13:23 01:00:00:00 01:00:00:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

003 AX A C 00:00:14:09 00:00:15:08 01:00:00:12 01:00:01:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

004 AX A C 00:00:16:03 00:00:18:04 01:00:01:11 01:00:03:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

005 AX A C 00:00:19:02 00:00:20:22 01:00:03:12 01:00:05:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav


The video clip is added to the timeline in the right spot, but the audio files aren't added at all...

Is this a limitation to EDL imports or am I doing something wrong?

Cheers!
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 8:46 am

Try importing all the media files before importing the EDL.
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 9:05 am

All the media files are imported as I mentioned before.

I've even tried placing them in the bin where I'm importing the EDL into.
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 9:23 am

In the Project Settings under General Options enable Extract Reel Names From EDL Comments.

the reel names in your EDL are empty (AX)
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 9:44 am

Sven H wrote:In the Project Settings under General Options enable Extract Reel Names From EDL Comments.

Thanks! I tried that, but unfortunately it still only adds the video files to the timeline, and not the audio-only files...

This behaviour can also be replicated if you export a timeline as an "EDL With Audio and" then try to Re-import it back into Resolve. The video files are added to the timeline, but the audio files are not.

In other words, the spaces where the audio-only files should be in the timeline are left blank...

Using Resolve 18.6.3 on Mac and PC, BTW
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 9:51 am

What if you replace AX with the name of the clip manually in the EDL?
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 10:03 am

Sven H wrote:What if you replace AX with the name of the clip manually in the EDL?


Do you mean something like this?

Code: Select all
TITLE: test_selects
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME

001 AX V C 00:00:13:11 00:00:13:23 01:00:00:00 01:00:00:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: Screen Recording 2023-07-09 at 14.24.12.mov

002 AX A C 00:00:13:11 00:00:13:23 01:00:00:00 01:00:00:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: Screen Recording 2023-07-09 at 14.24.12.mov

003 audio.wav A C 00:00:14:09 00:00:15:08 01:00:00:12 01:00:01:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

004 audio.wav A C 00:00:16:03 00:00:18:04 01:00:01:11 01:00:03:12
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav

005 audio.wav A C 00:00:19:02 00:00:20:22 01:00:03:12 01:00:05:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: audio.wav


I tried it, but still the same result - video shows up in the timeline, but audio-only clips don't.
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostMon Dec 04, 2023 3:39 pm

Just to add another note:

This doesn't seem to be connected to the fact that Resolve can't find the media in the bin - if that is the case, I get a media not found error (or the Log window with the "... failed to link because the timecode extents do not match any clip in the Media Pool" errors).

So, I think it only has to do with the fact that these are audio files which Resolve seems to completely ignore. Again, in the timeline, it leaves a blank space wherever the audio files need to be, then it continues with adding whatever video files come after.
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostTue Dec 05, 2023 3:09 am

In the EDL "AX" denotes an auxiliary source that is not a media clip, such as a colour generator.
EDL format requires a REEL number in that column, not a file name. The reel number is usually 3 digits in a CMX EDL format but can vary. Sony systems used a 6 digit reel number.

Things to try:

add a reel number in the EDL and add the reel number to the metadata of the audio clips.

Also, where did the EDL come from and what format was chosen for the EDL?
XML or AAF formats for system interchange of timelines are much more modern and reliable if it's possible to use those.
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostTue Dec 05, 2023 1:45 pm

Peter Cave wrote:add a reel number in the EDL and add the reel number to the metadata of the audio clips.

I'll try this for the sake of testing, but if this solution works it would be unfeasible in a normal workflow, since we'd be ultimately dealing with an unspecified number of distinct clips per timeline...

Peter Cave wrote:Also, where did the EDL come from and what format was chosen for the EDL?
XML or AAF formats for system interchange of timelines are much more modern and reliable if it's possible to use those.

The original EDL comes from Resolve itself, you can try this yourself by simply Exporting the Timeline to "EDL with Audio".

I was just playing around, trying to wrap my head around the EDL format to implement a new feature in our tool - StoryToolkitAI - that would allow user to create selects in the tool and re-import them in their NLE (i.e. Resolve, Avid MC, Premiere etc.).

AAF is unfortunately complicated to handle, while FCPXML isn't supported by all NLEs, and we would ultimately just need to import simple cuts without any fancy transitions, transforms etc., so that's why we were thinking that EDL, despite ancient, would work best for the purpose since it's known by most NLEs...

We'll probably end up providing FCPXML too as another export solution, but it would be great to make things work via EDL and as far as I can tell, the only thing stopping us to use it with Resolve is this audio file limitation...

As a matter of fact, my tests show that I can import EDL into Resolve and even have other timeline names in the CLIP NAME section of the EDL and Resolve will know to use Compound timelines within the newly created timeline, which is great!...
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Re: Importing EDL into Resolve

PostWed Dec 06, 2023 4:40 am

Try the FCP7 XML format as it's compatible with Premiere.

BTW EDL format is a very old format designed for use with ancient tape based linear systems. It really is not a great format to use in 2023. It is also not a fixed format, i.e. different EDL formats were used by different manufacturers and they were not compatible with each other.

Does Storytoolkit have other options available?
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