Resolve/Linux: solution for Proprietary Media Codecs

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Resolve/Linux: solution for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostTue May 14, 2024 6:47 am

Please find below the SOLUTION as it has been reported to the Linux Mint Team :shock: :

https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/670
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostTue May 14, 2024 8:13 am

I find it kind of humorous that the recommended solution to not having h.264 codec in Linux is to buy a machine with windows installed on it :D
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostTue May 14, 2024 2:20 pm

Heh. A true Linux weenie would buy Resolve Studio before getting near a Windows box. At least that's what I did. You still have the AAC issue, but a simple ffmpeg script fixes that.
(OK, OK, there are some other good reasons to get Studio besides h.264)
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostWed May 15, 2024 10:07 pm

Stephen Swaney wrote:Heh. A true Linux weenie (...)

WTH is that? :?

Stephen Swaney wrote:You still have the AAC issue, but a simple ffmpeg script fixes that.

Would you mind sharing with us how you pay the fees to the rights owners for their AAC algorithms you use?
Because as far as I know, violation of intellectual property rights is severely punished by law in the USA.
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 3:32 am

ZRGARDNE wrote:to not having h.264 codec in Linux

Oh, you have it. You have all the codecs you might need in Linux. FFmpeg has most of the media algorithms compiled by default.

What you don't have, though, is a simple way of compensating rights owners for the use of their algorithms.
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 3:42 am

The Amazed Eric wrote:
ZRGARDNE wrote:to not having h.264 codec in Linux

Oh, you have it. You have all the codecs you might need in Linux. FFmpeg has most of the media algorithms compiled by default.

What you don't have, though, is a simple way of compensating rights owners for the use of their algorithms.

Support AV1, it is royalty-free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 5:52 am

Cary Knoop wrote:Support AV1, it is royalty-free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

AV1 support for video hosting services:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... g_services

Free has a price ;)
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 1:21 pm

The Amazed Eric wrote:WTH is that? :?
Someone with an irrational fear of Windows. ;)
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 2:14 pm

The Amazed Eric wrote:
Cary Knoop wrote:Support AV1, it is royalty-free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

AV1 support for video hosting services:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... g_services

Free has a price ;)

YouTube, Facebook, Netflix, Twitch, and Vimeo have adopted the CODEC and are in the process of rolling it out.

Why so negative? I never understood this resistance to open software in the creative community.
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostThu May 16, 2024 3:06 pm

Jim Simon wrote:
The Amazed Eric wrote:WTH is that? :?
Someone with an irrational fear of Windows. ;)
As good an answer as any!
Apologies for the Americanism.
Would you mind sharing with us how you pay the fees to the rights owners for their AAC algorithms you use?
Because as far as I know, violation of intellectual property rights is severely punished by law in the USA.

AAC is an ISO standard. There are multiple implementations of an AAC encoder.
As I understand it, the issue is commercial distribution vs personal use.
/disclaimer: I am a programmer, not a lawyer
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a SOLUTION for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostFri May 17, 2024 5:43 am

Cary Knoop wrote:YouTube, Facebook, Netflix, Twitch, and Vimeo have adopted the CODEC and are in the process of rolling it out.

Why so negative? I never understood this resistance to open software in the creative community.

Me negative? Absolutely not. No, not even a bit. Nope. No, no, no. :D

Conservative? More than probably, yes I am.

Yet, I consider the names you cite to be the old guard, despite all their new technologies they keep changing every morning for the next very best one.

And I prefer to use the last player, Rumble, which use the good old h.264/aac couple.

"Open software" does not necessarily means it's free. Having the opportunity to audit the source satisfies the necessary and sufficient condition. That's true for all the technologies we're talking about.

At the end of the day, though, what I consider essential is stability.
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Re: Resolve/Linux: a for Proprietary Media Codecs

PostSat May 18, 2024 6:36 am

Stephen Swaney wrote:AAC is an ISO standard. There are multiple implementations of an AAC encoder.
As I understand it, the issue is commercial distribution vs personal use.
/disclaimer: I am a programmer, not a lawyer

Anyone can decide whether or not to read the following additional documents on the matter:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding
https://www.via-la.com/licensing-2/aac/aac-faqs/
https://www.state.gov/intellectual-prop ... Copyrights.

It's so obscure that it's impossible for me to decide:

-whether the (different) choices made by the various distributions in the Linux world protect their users
-whether AAC LC encoding (the version that concerns us) is indeed free of rights and/or can be safely used
-if proposing workarounds or allowing such proposals in a moderated forum can be considered as "incitement".
-whether my proposal is sufficient to satisfy the rights holders

Everyone will decide for themselves.

Like you, Stephen, I'm not a lawyer. I haven't even used Davinci Resolve in a long time. :)

When I last tried it (under Linux Mint), the OpenCL part of MESA (rusticl) was crashing. But that's another problem. :?

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