Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

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Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 7:36 am

Honestly, with as popular as gopro is, I was shocked when I tried to bring my gpr files into DR and it didn't recognize them. That's a huge segment of videographers that DR is leaving out.

With that said, I would appreciate it if support for gopro RAW files was added to DR...even if it is only added in the studio version. :ugeek:
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 9:36 am

Not all stills RAW formats are supported, but this may come one day.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 10:46 am

Yeah, that is strange. I also have MPEG2 files that Resolve is unable to read.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 3:54 pm

Alex Silva wrote:Yeah, that is strange. I also have MPEG2 files that Resolve is unable to read.
Resolve free or studio? I edit on DrStudio many mpeg2 this year from old hdv cam without problems.


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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 5:40 pm

Free.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 5:52 pm

The .gpr files are essentially .dng files with more compression. Did you try Adobe DNG Converter to convert to DNG? I bet that works.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 6:21 pm

Alex Silva wrote:Free.

Mpeg2 and other codecs are supported only from Studio version, some codecs need fee to be included like Dolby AC3.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 6:23 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:The .gpr files are essentially .dng files with more compression. Did you try Adobe DNG Converter to convert to DNG? I bet that works.


i'm quite sure to read somewhere on blog of David Newman that raw compression of go pro picture is an implementation of Cf raw on single frame.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 7:57 pm

Here's what GoPro themselves say, What is RAW Format?:
GoPro wrote:The .GPR format is an extension of Adobe’s .DNG format, adding enhanced compression (VC5 Standard) for faster storage and smaller files without impacting quality. VC5 compression takes what would have been a roughly 20MB file and reduces it to between 3-7MB.

And you're right, VC5 is the SMPTE standardized version of CineForm.

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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 8:34 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:The .gpr files are essentially .dng files with more compression. Did you try Adobe DNG Converter to convert to DNG? I bet that works.


I downloaded it last night, but haven't tried it just yet. That said, it's an annoying, (and should be) unnecessary step. If gopro was some obscure company with only a few users, then yeah, sure, it would make sense to not bother including that codec in DR. That is exactly the opposite of reality though. The gopro user base is absolutely massive. As it is right now, Adobe is the default software to use. If BMD seriously wants to rule the market...native support for action camera formats really need to be incorporated.

And yeah, I have the option to convert the gpr's to dng's. The problem with that is, I now have to import the gpr files, and convert them to dng...which is a larger format. Since I am converting between a more compressed format to a less compressed format, it will affect the image. Maybe not much. Maybe not even in a bad way. But, if I want to archive, then I have to choose whether or not to archive the gpr (the best choice since those are the source files) or the dng, which is larger...or both if I want to maintain the originals...but also don't want to have to reconvert the files if I ever need to go back and do anything with a project.

I mean...if it is a money thing, BMD could make it studio only. If that isn't sufficient, then they could set something up so that people could pay for specific codecs to be added in to their platform. Heck, this could be an extra source of income for the company. Those who need access to a specific codec just pay a small fee and download an add-on file, install it, BOOM...happy customer...plus a massive new potential client base.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 9:19 pm

Anthony, to be honest, action cam users are a great community, but how many of them use log format of action cam ?
Most of them never saw that exist protune, later called flat profile, most of them in forum told about this like a problem, not an option to keep dinamic range.

Raw photo from action cam is great for a fool like me that would like to shoot all in raw, from action cam to cinema camera, but many users never use high but rate video or raw be cause they think is a big waste of space.

Most of reviewer of newer GoPro told worst about 10bit be cause no one understand why they need 10bit, 8bit is enough, 10 bit and log is only for few professional that know very well color correction (no one know that from the first go pro studio there is a auto reverse from log to rec709 profile to give you the best from GoPro to video).

Like you I would like to see supported every kind of raw photo format but today is not a priority in the list be cause so very few people desire it, against many others features that could be implemented and used from common users.

Try to do a poll on GoPro forum and try to see how many people use raw photo against who not use it.
You could be amazed, in the bad way

Anyway I’m here to pay an extra for a raw photo pack plug-in to read natively all photo raw format.


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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Nov 01, 2022 11:27 pm

Use gpr tools from GoPro instead of DNG Converter...

https://github.com/gopro/gpr

The Adobe DNG Converter has a tendency to embed incorrect color profile metadata which Resolve then takes on board.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Nov 02, 2022 12:12 am

RikshaDriver wrote:Use gpr tools from GoPro instead of DNG Converter...

https://github.com/gopro/gpr

The Adobe DNG Converter has a tendency to embed incorrect color profile metadata which Resolve then takes on board.

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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostMon May 27, 2024 8:12 am

Thanks! And +1 for .GPR to be supported in DaVinci Resolve.


RikshaDriver wrote:Use gpr tools from GoPro instead of DNG Converter...

https://github.com/gopro/gpr

The Adobe DNG Converter has a tendency to embed incorrect color profile metadata which Resolve then takes on board.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Jun 04, 2024 8:00 am

For anyone needing to batch-convert a lot of images using gpr_tools, I created this script for use in a shell:

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for i in {16243..28784}

do

/gpr/build/source/app/gpr_tools/gpr_tools -i /path-to-GPR-files/G00$i.GPR -o /path-to-DNG-folder/G00$i.DNG

done
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  • Change the path to gpr_tools to where you have yours located. Eg. "/gpr/build/source/app/gpr_tools/gpr_tools"
  • Change the input path to where your RAW .GPR files are. I'm reading and writing to my SD card, so my path is actually "/Volumes/256GB/DCIM/GPR/"
  • Change the output path to where you want them saved.
  • Change the two numbers at the top to represent the first file, and the last file. My first file is G0016239.GPR, last file is G0028784.DNG. I actually changed my camera settings mid-way through this timelapse, going from day to night, so my files jump from 18xxx to 28xxx. But the script will skip all the missing numbers in between, and continue correctly when it hits correct files.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Jun 04, 2024 8:43 am

isn't gopro RAW for photos, instead of video?
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Jun 04, 2024 2:41 pm

Yes those are RAW *still* images, not video. Every RAW still image is unique to the specific camera sensor, which is why Adobe is constantly having to update ACR to accommodate that.

Resolve does not support the RAW image formats of many cameras such as the Sony A7RII, A7RIII and A7SIII.

When working on a video project where one of the assets is RAW stills, I've never considered importing those to an NLE. It seems a lot easier and faster to import those to Lightroom Classic, etc, curate them, use the special tools available in Lightroom or Photoshop, then export the few "keepers" to JPG, PNG or TIFF for use in the NLE.

Lightroom has been vastly improved in recent years, and it is much faster to use it for RAW stills than to do it in Resolve or any other NLE.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Jun 04, 2024 6:50 pm

exactly my thoughts. i don't think it's that strange that resolve doesn't read these files. For a moment i thought gopro developed their own raw video format..
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostTue Jun 04, 2024 9:17 pm

Yes, they have their own raw codec for video.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 7:08 am

Can you show me? I cannot find any information about that.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 7:55 am

Cineform RAW.

It's been around for a long time.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 7:59 am

Rick van den Berg wrote:Can you show me? I cannot find any information about that.


I looked and the project was already completed and the files wiped to make room for new footage. If I get time, I will capture some new files and try to get one of them uploaded.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 8:13 am

RikshaDriver wrote:Cineform RAW.

It's been around for a long time.
The fact that they have it doesn't mean they use it in the GoPro. AFAIK, they even made it open source.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 8:40 am

Uli Plank wrote:The fact that they have it doesn't mean they use it in the GoPro. AFAIK, they even made it open source.


The Cineform SDK is open sourced:

https://github.com/gopro/cineform-sdk

Unfortunately, they moved away from CineForm which is a shame.
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 9:46 am

well that is something different than gopro RAW right?
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Re: Seriously? No support for gopro RAW?

PostWed Jun 05, 2024 10:05 am

Yep. That's an extension of Adobe's DNG and used for stills by GoPro.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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