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Hi folks
I’d like to discuss this and see if we can come to an understanding and perhaps suggestions for some edge cases in Resolve selection. I’m concentrating on the edit page here but the results might apply everywhere.
So. When I’m in the edit page…
I can select one or more clips and that’s clearly a selection. I can hit delete for instance and they’ll go away. I can also copy them and paste them.
However, while I can set an in and out and hit delete, I can’t do copy paste. So does in and out define a selection? Apparently “sorta.”
I can also set just an in or out and hit delete. The in or out is “deleted.” But does that even make sense? What’s the user model for an in or out to be deleted? It’s not a clip or other selectable object - like a marker say.
What about a “selected” edge? That’s another thing that delete will delete. In fact, if one has some clips selected AND an edge selected then delete will delete the edge selection but not delete the clips. This is confusing and makes commands like delete less predictable.
What happens when clips AND markers are selected? If I cut and then paste what’s removed? What’s pasted? I’m not in front of Resolve as I write this so I can’t try it to find out. But I claim that I should be able to understand the model well enough that I can accurately predict what will happen rather than having to play with it and discover the answer. Plus the model should be simple enough that I don’t have to keep track of the differences in every little case.
I suggest that Resolve settle on a concise definition of selection. What’s included and what’s not. That commands that operate on the selection operate only on the selection and do so in a consistent way. No “if clips are selected it does this, if there’s an in and an out it does that, if there’s an edge selected it does yet another thing.
These things are fundamental to editing and have tons to do with how easy or hard it is to both learn and regularly use Resolve. The affect not only new users but also experienced ones who can’t rely on easily predictable behavior. I want to apply my brain to the edit, not to keeping track of all the odd cases that I run into every day using Resolve.
PS I know BMD will do what they will do. I’m just hoping they read this and perhaps find something agreeable in it.
I’d like to discuss this and see if we can come to an understanding and perhaps suggestions for some edge cases in Resolve selection. I’m concentrating on the edit page here but the results might apply everywhere.
So. When I’m in the edit page…
I can select one or more clips and that’s clearly a selection. I can hit delete for instance and they’ll go away. I can also copy them and paste them.
However, while I can set an in and out and hit delete, I can’t do copy paste. So does in and out define a selection? Apparently “sorta.”
I can also set just an in or out and hit delete. The in or out is “deleted.” But does that even make sense? What’s the user model for an in or out to be deleted? It’s not a clip or other selectable object - like a marker say.
What about a “selected” edge? That’s another thing that delete will delete. In fact, if one has some clips selected AND an edge selected then delete will delete the edge selection but not delete the clips. This is confusing and makes commands like delete less predictable.
What happens when clips AND markers are selected? If I cut and then paste what’s removed? What’s pasted? I’m not in front of Resolve as I write this so I can’t try it to find out. But I claim that I should be able to understand the model well enough that I can accurately predict what will happen rather than having to play with it and discover the answer. Plus the model should be simple enough that I don’t have to keep track of the differences in every little case.
I suggest that Resolve settle on a concise definition of selection. What’s included and what’s not. That commands that operate on the selection operate only on the selection and do so in a consistent way. No “if clips are selected it does this, if there’s an in and an out it does that, if there’s an edge selected it does yet another thing.
These things are fundamental to editing and have tons to do with how easy or hard it is to both learn and regularly use Resolve. The affect not only new users but also experienced ones who can’t rely on easily predictable behavior. I want to apply my brain to the edit, not to keeping track of all the odd cases that I run into every day using Resolve.
PS I know BMD will do what they will do. I’m just hoping they read this and perhaps find something agreeable in it.
Director, Editor, Problem Solver. Been cutting indie features for 24 years. FCP editor from version 2 to 7.
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MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max 64GB RAM, macOS 14.7.2
MacBook Air 13 M1 8GB RAM, macOS 14.6.1
BMPCC4K 8.6 beta
BMCC6K 8.7 beta