Vertical - Incorrectly displaying/Exporting (Canon video)

Hi Guys,

Issue with Canon 5D Mark IV native vertical video.
Using Resolve 19.1.4, Windows 11.
I'll provide more information upon request.
Thanks in advance!

I'll explain in 3 parts my:

1. Goal
2. Method/Settings
3. Issues/outcome

1. Goal:

Create vertical video using Canon 5D Mark IV video. Export in vertical 1080p

2. Method/Settings:

Importing video, proxy. Project settings have mixed timelines as I'm doing landscape and vertical. But I've set timeline settings to reflect vertical video with Vertical box checked.

3. Issues/Outcome

First issue is that vertical video shows in Media viewer as Landscape. I think this is the start of my issues. I played around with Clip Attributes but I think that's a weak point for me. Is there a way in the Media Pool to make native vertical clips show vertically?

I thought I had to manually rotate the video to appear vertically. I did that. I also had some black borders. The aspect ratio didn't align. So I had to zoom to fill the space.

Once I made the videos fit and it looked OK in the timelines, I exported. When I exported, the video would show square, and all apect ratios weren't what I see on the timelines.

I hope this makes sense.

Any help, much appreciated:

TLDR:
Need to make native vertical video from Canon, but doesn't show vertical in Media Pool. When "correcting" attributes like rotating clips, it changes again on Export.

Many thanks.

I don't know that the media has 'rotation' information in the Metadata, so Clip Attributes will be the way to go.

And there are some caveats with Proxies here, so...do you absolutely need those?

Thank you for the response.

I guess I don't need Proxies, did it out habit. Do you think putting them through BM Prox Gen that is removed or added its own clip attributes?

I tried using Clip Attributes and when I do, should they display different in the Media Pool?

Thanks for your help.

Can you post a screenshot reference of what you get vs what you want to get?

when I do, should they display different in the Media Pool?

No, you won't see it there. Just in the timeline and Source Viewer.

Can you post a screenshot reference of what you get vs what you want to get?

Notice how it's displayed in the timeline. This is how it has to look like in the timeline in order for it to look correct on the output.





https://i.imgur.com/Mil8okT.png

https://i.imgur.com/lGQtVD5.png

Notice how it's displayed in the timeline. This is how it has to look like in the timeline in order for it to look correct on the output.

Generally speaking you can do flip horizontal and vertical and rotation angles in the inspector panel and you can also choose scaling options there as well. These are the same as ones you can choose in project or timeline settings under mismatch resolution category. When you do it in the inspector you do it on the clip by clip basis. If you do it on the timeline level its obviously for whole timeline and if you do in project you are applying it to whole project. You can always choose one of the three as you work, Copy and paste attributes will also allow you to copy and paste just the flip and rotation angle across individual clips, if you have a need to apply it only to some clips on the timeline but not all.

I am using Resolve Studio 20 beta, so the interface for vertical video is slightly differnt, but functions are the same.

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What you should keep in mind is that because the complexity and power of resolve there are many places and order of image processing where you can change resolution, orientation and ceiling.

But to keep it simple, when you are creating timeline, you have in the settings for the timeline format and output tab. Format tab is the edit sizing, a kind of a working resolution or reference resolution. Generally its set to fit for all clips that are mismatched in resolution or when you switch the vertical resolution checkbox it will apply it as crop with no resizing. So you can re-frame it.

However the output tab is actual resolution of timeline. keep that in mind. That way you get vertical 9:16 aspect ratio and clips you can re-frame inside of it. This is by default and by default format tab and output tab have mirror settings, except mismatch resolution. You can uncheck mirror option if you want to and adjust them independently. Most of the time you don't need to , but if you need to or want to you can do it.

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You can also open your clip in fusion page and apply transform tool to flip the clip or rotate it. And you can easily copy and paste the transformation by using clip thumbnails view. It should give you the same as doing it in the inspector panel. But its another way to do it.

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These options you should give you all you need to adjust your clips to whatever you want.