What Apple Display Colour Profile?

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What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostTue May 06, 2025 6:30 pm

My MacBook Pro M1 Display Colour Profile is set to: Display P3

What do you guys use? What's more appropriate/correct for video editing?
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostTue May 06, 2025 10:32 pm

The display profile is designed to work with the type of display on your computer to give accurate colour. Changing it without doing a full hardware software calibration will make it LESS accurate.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostTue May 06, 2025 11:33 pm

I dont even know what's the default colour profile
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostTue May 06, 2025 11:40 pm

According to AI I should set it to: P3 – D65 Gamma 2.4

Why This Is the Best Choice:
• P3 matches your MacBook Pro’s wide color gamut.
• D65 is the standard white point for both video and photo work.
• Gamma 2.4 is the industry standard for video editing (especially for Rec.709), and still behaves well for photo work in Photoshop.
• This setting ensures consistency between DaVinci Resolve and Photoshop, without needing to constantly switch profiles.


Avoid:
• Plain “Display P3” – it uses the Mac’s default gamma (around 2.2), which is less consistent for video work.
• P3 – D65 Gamma 2.6 – too dark; mainly used for cinema projection, not suitable for general display or editing work.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostWed May 07, 2025 3:35 am

Mario69Rossi wrote:Avoid:
• Plain “Display P3” – it uses the Mac’s default gamma (around 2.2), which is less consistent for video work.


Can someone explain to me why 2.2 being “less consistent”. What does this mean?
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostWed May 07, 2025 5:04 am

mpetech wrote:
Mario69Rossi wrote:Avoid:
• Plain “Display P3” – it uses the Mac’s default gamma (around 2.2), which is less consistent for video work.


Can someone explain to me why 2.2 being “less consistent”. What does this mean?


Broadcast rec709 specifies gamma 2.4 as standard.
Also it was an AI generated response so could have meaningless content. AI is not the way to get reliable and accurate technical information.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostWed May 07, 2025 9:02 am

Peter Cave wrote:Also it was an AI generated response so could have meaningless content. AI is not the way to get reliable and accurate technical information.

Well no one else responded to my enquiry hence so far it's the best guess.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostWed May 07, 2025 9:09 am

The right setting would be HDTV Video (BT.709-BT.1886) according to HI (human intelligence) for most purposes.
But a calibrated display via a BM I/O device would still be better.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostThu May 08, 2025 12:55 am

Uli Plank wrote:The right setting would be HDTV Video (BT.709-BT.1886) according to HI (human intelligence) for most purposes.
Uli, that option doesn’t show up in the list of color profiles I can choose from. Still, AI has given me the most accurate answer so far :D

Uli Plank wrote:But a calibrated display via a BM I/O device would still be better.
I’m not sure why this always comes up in these kinds of threads. There’s always someone jumping in to say you need a calibrated external display, an I/O device, and a bunch of other gear. Not everyone is editing for Hollywood, some people just want something that looks decent enough with what they have. If someone’s editing on a MacBook Pro, it’s probably because it’s convenient. Nobody in their right mind is going to travel around with a laptop, a Blackmagic I/O box, and a reference monitor just to tweak a YouTube video or a quick freelance gig.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostThu May 08, 2025 2:40 am

Mario69Rossi wrote:I’m not sure why this always comes up in these kinds of threads. There’s always someone jumping in to say you need a calibrated external display, an I/O device, and a bunch of other gear. Not everyone is editing for Hollywood, some people just want something that looks decent enough with what they have. If someone’s editing on a MacBook Pro, it’s probably because it’s convenient. Nobody in their right mind is going to travel around with a laptop, a Blackmagic I/O box, and a reference monitor just to tweak a YouTube video or a quick freelance gig.

Oh, yes we do.

Read page 2870 of the Resolve 19 manual, "Limitations When Grading With the Viewer on a Computer Display." This explains why it's unwise to try to use a computer display for final color correction. The same problem also exists with the "Clean Feed" output, since it's not color managed.

Don't try to make judgements on uncalibrated GUI displays. That will lead down a perilous road of pain and suffering... I think even more so with uncalibrated Apple XDR displays. And if you do look at anything in the GUI display, don't don't rely on it for determining color decisions.

The Clean Feed can be perfectly adequate if you're only editing in Resolve and don't need to make any precise color judgements on the fullscreen preview display. If you do need to see accurate color, you really need a color-managed output with a Blackmagic UltraStudio or Decklink adapter, plus an external calibrated display. And to calibrate it, you need proper test signals, probes, and software outside of Resolve to ensure that it meets normal industry standards.

Steve Shaw of LightIllusion has a good essay on the importance of using grading displays for judging color:

https://www.lightillusion.com/grading_displays.html

It's dicey to try to try to judge anything on a MacBook Pro XDR display (I'm staring at one right now), but it's not horrible if you select the "HD Video BT1886" preset, turn off "Automatically Adjust Brightness," turn off TrueTone, and turn off Night Shift. It's not ideal to color grade on, but it's not a terrible Rec709/gamma 2.4 real-world display.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostThu May 08, 2025 9:59 am

Totally get where you’re coming from, and I understand that for professional color work, especially anything going to broadcast or cinema, having a calibrated external monitor and proper I/O setup is the standard. That said, not everyone using Resolve is working at that level or aiming for that kind of precision.

For people like me, always on the road, doing freelance or social media work, lugging around an UltraStudio, reference monitor, and probe isn’t practical or realistic. And I’d bet most Resolve users fall into a similar category: they’re using the tools they have (often just a MacBook Pro) and aiming for results that look good enough across typical viewing platforms, not absolute perfection.

Of course it’s not ideal, but the goal is to make smart compromises and squeeze the best out of what’s available. In the end, not every project needs Hollywood evel accuracy, most often it just needs to look solid on YouTube.

I posted here to get a hint to what's the best of the non ideal options but so far nobody gave an option. Uli tried but the colour profile suggested is not among the ones Apple offers on the my system.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostThu May 08, 2025 8:20 pm

Hmm, it should be here:
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What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostThu May 08, 2025 11:34 pm

Curiously if I pick that item the brightness is locked - even though rec.709/BT.1886 specifies relative not absolute levels.
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostFri May 09, 2025 12:23 am

Uli Plank wrote:Hmm, it should be here:

My list looks a bit different:
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Re: What Apple Display Colour Profile?

PostFri May 09, 2025 12:28 am

I set it to: P3 – D65 Gamma 2.4
In the pictures it shows something else but it's a click that happen while taking the print screen
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