Where are project files stored?

There’s a long discussion - probably one of many - about why exporting drps is insufficient to really making this workflow work.

In short, every time you import a drp you get a new project. So you’d have to manage all the new projects and make sure you’re exporting to the same drp location to make sure you didn’t edit the wrong thing. Much more complex than a normal file-based workflow. Much more complex than just working on a project within the db.

In short, every time you import a drp you get a new project.

True, but at least in my case imports are pretty rare. Once I'm finished work with a project and have done my final render I do a final export to ".drp" and then delete the project from the database. The only time I normally need to re-import a ".drp" is if I need to reactivate the project in order to do more work on it, and when I do there is no previous project in the database to worry about.

But it is true that in the occasional instance where I need to import in order to go back to a previous edit point in an active project, then I need to deal with renaming the resulting multiple versions in the database.

I just find that it's useful to be able to have copies of your project outside the database, and that I've found exporting to be a good way to do it.

I just find that it's useful to be able to have copies of your project outside the database, and that I've found exporting to be a good way to do it.

Absolutely! For your workflow and that purpose Export Project is just the ticket. Is the workflows where people are sharing projects back and forth or moving a project from work to home where Export/Import Project is insufficient to the task. And where one ends up with myriad projects unless one deletes the project every time they export the drp.

If you are going to answer the question with "It's in the manual" then don't answer it. That's a dick move. Some people don't want to search manual and want straight answers. And nobody cares about your "titles"

Perhaps the previous comment could be considered a "dick move".

Why?

Resolve *is not at all* like unto any other NLE type program. Much of the functions and tools have different nomenclature and functionality than most new users expect.

To a depth very difficult to handle in most forum discussions. Which is why you will see the comments about both reading the massive manual, *and* checking their rather extensive sectional articles on different pages and general video tutorials.

Some things can be quickly handled here, some things you practically need help from here to find the right place in the manual. But so much needs to be learned either directly under an experienced user ... or that manual.

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I contend that Resolve is in substance much more similar to other systems but its terminology and UI choices obfuscate this.

There are things that are different with a purpose and things that are different because of reinventing the wheel. The latter is... unfortunate.

Back when they ported it from their proprietary system to macos I THINK they made it much more familiar to "normal users." But it's still quite a bit different in ways that aren't necessary and make it harder for newbies to learn. Plus there are many things that are just not as good as the more standard versions which have benefited from having to evolve in a bigger pond of NLEs and users.

Anyway, this argument isn't anything new to this forum. Hope people aren't too annoyed to see it again but I think it applies here.

I contend that Resolve is in substance much more similar to other systems but its terminology and UI choices obfuscate this.

There are things that are different with a purpose and things that are different because of reinventing the wheel. The latter is... unfortunate.

I agree with this. Their terminology is, well, different. This is why people (including me) have a problem with the manual. Well, one of the reasons! Unless you know the BMD terminology, precisely, you can never find what you need in the manual with its exact text search. IF you know the terminology that well there you probably wouldn't need to search in the manual! This is why most new users go to YouTube for answers and suggest others do.

There are few good explanations on where the project files are, how they work etc.None of them from BMD.

I also agree that some things are different on purpose. During a face to face chat with a BMD technician, there was a suggestion that the resolve team don't like to do anything that might be seen as copying another NLE or acknowledging their [BMD] terminology is anything but industry standard. I was discussing a feature request with the BMD Tech and said this is standard on FCPX, and he said that if he told the Resolve Developers that they would not do it on principal. HE would need to find a more diplomatic way to word it despite it being requested by a lot of people in more than one thread in this very forum. The feature is now in Resolve..

To state the obvious, the NLE is like all other Avid-based NLEs: they share almost all the same features. If you know one, you know them all.

And again to state the obvious, the differences arise from the origins of Resolve as a collaborative color grading application -- and its continuing obligation to work that way, rather than as a standalone NLE for which industry, so far, has little use. The requirements of collaborative graders are going to prevail over the convenience or expectations of folks used to Vegas or original FCP.

But even so, no company tries harder than this one does to make it accessible -- manuals, books, videos, etc. etc. etc. If none of that suits you, what more is expected? Rewrite everything to specifications which don't reflect industry requirements or expectations beyond NLEs?

And for those who can't or won't read the pertinent sections of the manual -- which, despite claims here, is highly readable compared to most others -- or are unwilling to consult the training materials, there's not a whole lot to say, other than find a product that better suits you, because the centrality of coloring grading, rather than expectations created by standalone NLEs, will continue to dictate design.

I don't think this comment is fair John. We generally agree I think but in this case...

The way I see it is all organizations have strengths and weaknesses and their products often reflect these. BMD is very interested in trying to get people to like the way they do things and is very willing to put lots of resources into classes and manuals to attract them. BUT...

BMD - and the Resolve group in particular - seems to be very stuck in "not invented here syndrome."

To me it's very clear that it's not about balancing between the needs of colorists and editors. There are so many things that have no impact at all on colorists and yet they're not done - even when they're easy. Some - like this one - would benefit colorists. Many are easy. So why not do them? Who knows! They won't talk about it. But I too talked to a BMD person at a trade show who said he had to be very careful about how he approached dev or they'd reject his ideas regardless of merit. That's not a good situation for users.

I don't think this comment is fair John. We generally agree I think but in this case...

The way I see it is all organizations have strengths and weaknesses and their products often reflect these. BMD is very interested in trying to get people to like the way they do things and is very willing to put lots of resources into classes and manuals to attract them. BUT...

BMD - and the Resolve group in particular - seems to be very stuck in "not invented here syndrome."

To me it's very clear that it's not about balancing between the needs of colorists and editors. There are so many things that have no impact at all on colorists and yet they're not done - even when they're easy. Some - like this one - would benefit colorists. Many are easy. So why not do them? Who knows! They won't talk about it. But I too talked to a BMD person at a trade show who said he had to be very careful about how he approached dev or they'd reject his ideas regardless of merit. That's not a good situation for users.

I note you are in the USA and got exactly the same reaction from a BMD person I got in Europe. "he had to be very careful about how he approached dev or they'd reject his ideas regardless of merit."

I am assuming, and perhaps you can confirm, that the BMD person you were talking to was an American? The one I was talking to wasn't. So it wasn't the same BMD person or from the same team/country. This indicates that the view is not from a single person or location but far more widespread.

Someone said that the BMD team have been together for many years, back to the time when 100 sales per year was a lot. These were into the high-end professional "Hollywood" market. Since then, the numbers have exploded to several million users, mainly YouTubers and small one man outfits, but BMD still seem to be using the very small numbers of original users as guidance on what is needed in Resolve.

A case in point, BMD added uploading to YT, Vimeo, Dropbox etc but only one account of each where most using that feature had multiple accounts. When I mentioned this to the BMD tech I also commented that multiple accounts had been available in FCPX since day one they said If I tell the BMD devs that they won't do it on principle!!

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And for those who can't or won't read the pertinent sections of the manual -- which, despite claims here, is highly readable compared to most others .

It is comments like this that are the problem. The manual is NOT "highly readable" it is near on impossible to find information for most newcomers. It is one of the worst manuals I have ever come across, and I have worked with paper manuals for aircraft where "volume one" is that cabinet and Vol 2 another cabinet and so on... .

As noted, many people in this forum complain about the Resolve manual. As for outside the forum... It is no wonder there are so many YT channels that most people head to before, if ever, looking in the manual.

If there are problem comments here I would say their yours -- if that's the language you want to use. The challenge for the BMD authors is creating a manual which is both instructive but also serves as a reference -- and reads reasonably well -- since the audience is broad and diverse with respect to experience (hence, training videos, introductory volumes, etc., none of which you find acceptable). I wish there was a comprehensive index, but on the whole, I'd say they've succeeded with the manual about as well as one could expect, with those objectives in mind -- provided users have the patience to actually read for more than 3 minutes at a time.

You've made your own views here very clear, as you have for some years now -- virtually on a daily basis, on how terrible it all is and astonishment that BMD can't see it as you do. This band plays on, year after year.

For the rest, there's no disputing that many folks here -- beginners, mostly -- are more inclined to spend hours looking for an answer on youtube than consult the manual. Each to his own, but I don't think BMD is under any obligation to serve this clientele, even if that were possible (which it isn't). Maybe it's enough that they're giving away a professional product for free?

For the rest, there's no disputing that many folks here -- beginners, mostly -- are more inclined to spend hours looking for an answer on youtube than consult the manual.

I started trying the other way round. You can spend a hell of a LOT of time not finding things in the manual. But only minutes getting demonstrated answers on YT.

but I don't think BMD is under any obligation to serve this clientele, even if that were possible (which it isn't).

It clearly is possible to serve this clientele because very many people do. Also this is BMD's largest market.

Maybe it's enough that they're giving away a professional product for free?

Except very many one man bands and YouTubers (who are often teams of people) are buying the Studio version as I did.

I'm not sure how useful it is to continue this discussion, but as has been pointed out many times, Resolve is a loss-leader. BMD makes its money selling hardware. Unless the youtube clientele is investing in $30K panels, they're not keeping the lights on. And it's unlikely BMD will resdesign the product so that (for example) 'tubers don't have read the brief section in the manual on databases, which serves a different and far more lucrative clientele.

Even your $299, which includes free instructional materials of all sorts, matched by no other company, and which has so far included free updates year after year, does not keep this product running.

Both Resolve and Resolve Studio are effectively offered for free -- along with a large array of instructional materials, also provided for nothing. Like many others here, I hanker for improvements outside the Color page. But that's not calling for redesign to suit the expectations of solo shops, occasional users and non-professionals.

If you find the manual unusable, that's unfortunate. But your experience isn't universal. And BMD does not owe you a redesign of perfectly workable features, like the databases, which serve its professional clientele. $299 won't buy that.

using the User Manual as a resource will give you an advantage over other editors who don't like to read. I used user manuals to educate myself about software/hardware operation and built a successful 40+ year career as an editor/colourist without ever going to film school. My advice is to use EVERY resource you have available to educate yourself. The more you look in the manual the more familiar you will become with the contents and it will become second nature to find things using the PDF hyperlinks. It's a very complicated software designed by three different companies over a 30 year time period. The user manual is my first stop for information.

Some users think they should not need to use the manual. That's fine as it's a personal choice, but please don't lecture those of us who use it successfully, with the reasons YOU don't like it!

Using the generously supplied free tutorials will make you familiar with specific nomenclature.
After that, it's going to be much easier to find what you need in the manual. It's rather like an encyclopaedia than a novel

Feeding the manual into NotebookLM is an interesting option too. I got a pretty good answer from the AI when using the thread title as a prompt. Try it out, the times they are a changing.

Some users think they should not need to use the manual. That's fine as it's a personal choice, but please don't lecture those of us who use it successfully, with the reasons YOU don't like it!

This is not true. A huge number of users find the manual impossible to use. THAT is the problem. There are whole threads on this forum about the lack of indexing and search abilities coupled with, as noted above, BMD using their own terminology. How it is impossible to find things in the manual Large numbers of users have spent a lot of time trying to use the manual and found it is the least efficient way of finding information. I am not alone by a long way.

This is why when people say "how do I do X in Resolve!" usually because they can't find the answer in the manual despite looking, the usual answer is look on YouTube. This will give several worked demonstrations instantly.

I would also suggest that now the largest market share for Resolve is the YouTubers. They do use the Studio version and are likely to be buying BMD hardware (as I have). The world has moved on "Tubers" are usually teams of 4-30 with a turnover higher than most freelancers or employees in the traditional Hollywood market.

@ jamedia : Off Topic The real income is surely from hardware.

Of your estimated 2M user base how many of then are 'free' users. I suspect a great many. So is a change really justified. We are lucky to have the excellent 'Studio' for say £300 with free version updates. So not sure that a revamp of the forum is justified/necessary.

Just an observation so please do not take my comment personally. Thanks G

@ jamedia : Off Topic The real income is surely from hardware.

Of your estimated 2M user base how many of then are 'free' users. I suspect a great many. So is a change really justified. We are lucky to have the excellent 'Studio' for say £300 with free version updates. So not sure that a revamp of the forum is justified/necessary.

Just an observation so please do not take my comment personally. Thanks G

The world has changed, a lot, when it comes to video. Most of the YT channels I look at whilst a single presenter are usually a team of half a dozen full-time people. It is a business, not a hobby for them. When I got over the YT threshold and got into some of the partner only sessions, it surprised me. I thought like many here it was one man bands. They start out that way, but the successful ones quickly morph into multi person businesses. I am not in that set as I am not using YT for that reason. The sort of YT user (and other platforms) who will look at Resolve are going to be earning more than most in the "traditional" film business.

The thing is the free Resolve got into the wannabes, students, one-man bands and YouTubers. As they start to make money, they do move to the Studio version and other BMD hardware.

On a straw poll, most YouTubers will have the studio version. $300 is a very small amount for any business, and in most regions you can set it against tax. I did. I remember when one who had a YT chat show showed of the new studio. They had SIX BMD Studio Cameras with add-ons and the controllers to an ATEM and other BMD kit. Now they are not all like that, but thousands of them are.

I would suggest there are more paid for Studio Resolves being used on YouTube channels than anywhere else. I doubt that it is the same for BMD hardware yet.... but that drift is happening.

The reason why you don't see it on here is because of the attitude of the long time "traditional" members to "tubers" I remember when the ATEM Mini came out it was carnage on the ATEM part of this forum. I haven't looked recently, but the attitude was not exactly friendly to the ATEM mini users who were, it had to be said, complete novices, and no background, or interest in most cases, in "how we do it in Hollywood" in the last decade(s) They were however buying Resolve Studio and BMD hardware.

I do understand both points of view. The problem is the world and the industry changes. The old lions are talking about a world the new upstarts have no idea about and will never see because it is disappearing (changing). BMD will need the new market which is many times larger than the traditional market.

BTW the attention spans of the new users are a lot shorter and being used to YouTube they will go there first before reading the manual. I did try the manual first for the first year or so, but it was a very inefficient way of working and as I noted I am used to bigger manuals than the Resolve one. Which BTW needs a complete overhaul.

@ jamedia. Thanks for clarification. How times have changed.

@ jamedia. Thanks for clarification. How times have changed.

Tell me about it....

BTW if you want to know what is in the V20 PB4 there is nothing on the BMD website (other than the list) but there are multiple in depth YouTube channel reviews out there. However, nothing on the official BMD YouTube channel! If you want to know about the new stuff, you will have to go to the "tubers".

One of the YT channels covering Resolve V20 PB4 it referenced a better annotated list of the new features on a Facebook page! I just discovered there are several FB pages that cover Resolve and BMD hardware, none of them run by BMD and with higher traffic than this forum. This would suggest that this forum is not the main focus for Resolve users and BMD HW users to hang out.

So this forum is probably not an accurate reflection of BMD users any more?

Some users think they should not need to use the manual. That's fine as it's a personal choice, but please don't lecture those of us who use it successfully, with the reasons YOU don't like it!

This is not true. A huge number of users find the manual impossible to use. THAT is the problem. There are whole threads on this forum about the lack of indexing and search abilities coupled with, as noted above, BMD using their own terminology. How it is impossible to find things in the manual Large numbers of users have spent a lot of time trying to use the manual and found it is the least efficient way of finding information. I am not alone by a long way.

This is why when people say "how do I do X in Resolve!" usually because they can't find the answer in the manual despite looking, the usual answer is look on YouTube. This will give several worked demonstrations instantly.

I would also suggest that now the largest market share for Resolve is the YouTubers. They do use the Studio version and are likely to be buying BMD hardware (as I have). The world has moved on "Tubers" are usually teams of 4-30 with a turnover higher than most freelancers or employees in the traditional Hollywood market.

Please explain what is "not true" about my opinion. All I said is that users are free to choose how they learn and that lecturing users who CAN navigate the manual successfully is inappropriate.
Keep in mind it's a technical reference manual, not a technique training manual.

Please explain what is "not true" about my opinion..

I did.

BTW if you want to know what is in the V20 PB4 there is nothing on the BMD website (other than the list) but there are multiple in depth YouTube channel reviews out there. However, nothing on the official BMD YouTube channel! If you want to know about the new stuff, you will have to go to the "tubers".

There is a pdf manual at right of where you download the exe/dmg about beta20 new feature .

Do you think all YouTuber learn by try and error new feature? No, they read the manual of beta…

Do you not like to read manuals? It’s a choose.
Do you not like to read section manuals (available in training section with exercise)? It’s a matter of choose.

If you prefer videos why not start from Blackmagic videos training? And Blackmagic Design channel?

But if you think crappy search on you tube replace a well documented pdf, and verified information from software producers.. no thanks

YouTube is full of crap and wrong infos that causes tons of problems on every software, and also full of good tutorials, but you should find them.

If your point of view is that manual is unusable, it’s your point of view, I’m the opposite be cause like pro I cannot have time to waste on search of hundreds of wrong videos and I search directly in manual what I need.

If you not like to read manuals, you can use notebookLM to load manual and answer to AI what you need, but from a secure source, not a social media where everyone can did rumors and supposition about feature.


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Do you think all YouTuber learn by try and error new feature? No, they read the manual of beta…

You are wrong on both points there.

Do you not like to read manuals? It’s a choose.

No, I read lots of manuals and have done for decades. As I mentioned I have used far larger and more complex manuals than the resolve one.

If you prefer videos why not start from Blackmagic videos training? And Blackmagic Design channel? .

Black magic is not good at videos. Strange but true.
There are no videos on the BMD channel re V20
There is no information on the new features.from BMD
The Training videos and usually the manuals are often a version behind.

But if you think crappy search on you tube replace a well documented pdf, and verified information from software producers.. no thanks

The search on Yout Tube is not "crappy" but somewhat advanced. Especially compared to the search in the Resolve PDF. The information in the PDF is not that good anyway as it is often an version behind.

YouTube is full of crap and wrong infos that causes tons of problems on every software, and also full of good tutorials, but you should find them.

YT is full of crap. However, for information on Resolve, it is very good. Poor channels don't last very long. There are several dozen very good channels that many experienced pro's recommend.

If your point of view is that manual is unusable, it’s your point of view, I’m the opposite be cause like pro I cannot have time to waste on search of hundreds of wrong videos and I search directly in manual what I need.

I am also a pro and don't have time to waste on an unusable manual that is often out of date. Whereas in a fraction of the time find up-to-date and accurate information and demos on the things I am looking for.. I did try the manual for quite some time but I don't have time to waste.

If you not like to read manuals, you can use notebookLM to load manual and answer to AI what you need, but from a secure source,

Once again, I do like manuals. However, your suggestion of NotebookLM and AI "from a secure source" shows your complete lack of understanding of how things work. especially when you say

not a social media where everyone can did rumors and supposition about feature.

The YouTube videos are an actual walk through of the features in Resolve showing how it actually works. No supposition or rumours. This is whilst the resolve manual is still a version behind.... As a pro I don't have time for that. I need the up todate information.

BTW I did try the BMD training videos. They would not load and run. This is a constant thing you see on this forum and other places. The reason was, when I tried them, is they were set up for a MAC and nothing linked up on a PC. I wasted hours in the manuals trying to work it out.... resorted to YouTube to find out why. Got the answers and found from experience, YouTube is 99.99% of the time a faster and more accurate solution.

I have made suggestions for improving the manuals, actually similar suggestions that many others have made but see the comments above on BMD not listening. ,

There are quite a few YouTubers whose content is pure gold when it comes to demonstrating how to use both new and old features of Resolve. I've become accustomed to going to specific content providers for specific aspect of Resolve, understanding their strengths and weaknesses and taking the best of each while ignoring their blind spots. Once I am reasonably familiar with a feature and its terminology, I can use the reference manual to dig deeper but as you mentioned, the reference manual is well behind the most recent release and cannot provide details of the new features of v20.

Not sure why I felt compelled to chime in here. Nothing of value to add other than my own experience on the journey that is Resolve. Cheers.

Two things are clear:
1. Many people are frustrated.
2. Quite a few people here are quick to chime in and ridicule them.

Not a good combination. Sigh.

Two things are clear:
1. Many people are frustrated.
2. Quite a few people here are quick to chime in and ridicule them.

Not a good combination. Sigh.

Nobody is ridiculing anyone who is frustrated. My experience using the manual has been called "not true" by a user. The user also refused to explain why MY experience is "not true" when asked politely. I don't enjoy being called a liar regarding my personal experience.

Two things are clear:
1. Many people are frustrated.
2. Quite a few people here are quick to chime in and ridicule them.

Not a good combination. Sigh.

Nobody is ridiculing anyone who is frustrated. My experience using the manual has been called "not true" by a user. The user also refused to explain why MY experience is "not true" when asked politely. I don't enjoy being called a liar regarding my personal experience.

That is simply not true. You said

Some users think they should not need to use the manual. That's fine as it's a personal choice, but please don't lecture those of us who use it successfully, with the reasons YOU don't like it!

It is not true that some users think they should not need to use the manual. What is true is that many users find the manual impossible to use and a very inefficient way to find information and answer questions.

Your responses are completely disingenuous When I said your comment was not true, I gave several paragraphs of explanation you chose to ignore.

This is not true. A huge number of users find the manual impossible to use. THAT is the problem. There are whole threads on this forum about the lack of indexing and search abilities coupled with, as noted above, BMD using their own terminology. How it is impossible to find things in the manual Large numbers of users have spent a lot of time trying to use the manual and found it is the least efficient way of finding information. I am not alone by a long way.

This is why when people say "how do I do X in Resolve!" usually because they can't find the answer in the manual despite looking, the usual answer is look on YouTube. This will give several worked demonstrations instantly.

I would also suggest that now the largest market share for Resolve is the YouTubers. They do use the Studio version and are likely to be buying BMD hardware (as I have). The world has moved on "Tubers" are usually teams of 4-30 with a turnover higher than most freelancers or employees in the traditional Hollywood market.

"It is not true that some users think they should not need to use the manual. What is true is that many users find the manual impossible to use and a very inefficient way to find information and answer questions."

I find the user manual extremely easy to use. Some people HAVE stated in these forums that they think users should not need to refer to the manual, as features should be "discoverable" in the software. Ask Joe, or do I have to troll back through the forums to find those posts?
Basically I disagree with you, so lets leave it at that shall we?

"It is not true that some users think they should not need to use the manual. What is true is that many users find the manual impossible to use and a very inefficient way to find information and answer questions."

I find the user manual extremely easy to use. Some people HAVE stated in these forums that they think users should not need to refer to the manual, as features should be "discoverable" in the software. Ask Joe, or do I have to troll back through the forums to find those posts?
Basically I disagree with you, so lets leave it at that shall we?

You find the people who "HAVE stated in these forums that they think users should not need to refer to the manual"
That is not something I or anyone else I have seen on here have said. We are all saying the manual needs improving because we have all tried to use it and want a better manual.

You appear to disagree with that.

However, your comments are disingenuous and have been somewhat insulting to YouTubers. This is part of the reason why this forum is not the central focus of Resolve users. However, The YouTube type users are by far the majority of Resolve users and are buying BMD hardware. Perhaps you need to reassess your perspectives? The world has changed a hell of a lot in the last 20 years.

We are all saying the manual needs improving because we have all tried to use it and want a better manual.

I'm not sure who "all" is, or who else you're speaking for, but I don't think anyone here believes the manual couldn't or shouldn't be improved. In more candid moments you've noted that many users today, unlike the old and dying guard of dinosaurs you find clueless and inflexible, won't or can't read this or any other manual. In your case you refer to manuals you do read, and find vastly superior, but don't name them. A reader might be forgiven for believing those manuals are for microwave ovens, not post-production software.

I put it to you that human knowledge cannot be transmitted without the written word, and the analytical skills cognate with reading and writing, and that any post-production software that attempts to cater to non-readers will fail working professionals, to the extent the marketplace still supports high-level skills.

It's true, the demands of casual "content" and youtube may not require those skills. But for that kind of work there are lots of other tools, some of them also free. Why Resolve must in your view conform to these same user expectations, in design and presentation, is a mystery. BMD is evidently confident in its approach and knows something about marketing. How did you become better informed? For that matter, some of us wish they'd go the opposite direction: bring the non-Color pages up to industry standards. That's the gist of most of the complaints here, not the manual or long-standing design features like databases or fixed panel positions.

I think if we calm down we can likely agree on a few things.

1. Manuals are a good thing to have and Resolve’s has lots of useful info in it.

2. Without an index and with terminology that’s often unique to Resolve, it’s harder to find stuff in the manual than it could be.

3. Users asking questions that have answers in the manual are often handed the RTFM response. This isn’t really useful and feels unfriendly to the recipient.

I think if we calm down we can likely agree on a few things.

1. Manuals are a good thing to have and Resolve’s has lots of useful info in it.

2. Without an index and with terminology that’s often unique to Resolve, it’s harder to find stuff in the manual than it could be.

3. Users asking questions that have answers in the manual are often handed the RTFM response. This isn’t really useful and feels unfriendly to the recipient.

+1 for all three points.

However, your comments are disingenuous and have been somewhat insulting to YouTubers. This is part of the reason why this forum is not the central focus of Resolve users. However, The YouTube type users are by far the majority of Resolve users and are buying BMD hardware. Perhaps you need to reassess your perspectives? The world has changed a hell of a lot in the last 20 years.

If you go back and read my comments again you will see that I have never mentioned any particular group of users. I have no idea why you think that I have an issue with Youtubers. You accuse me of being disingenuous, make assumptions about me and attribute things to my comments that were never said. I have been changing my perspectives constantly over a 40+ year career. No, I am NOT one of those dinosaurs that don't want change, as I have been adapting to change every day of my working life. All this because I don't have a problem with the user manual? OK. I'm fine with that. Discussions about the manual always seem to create wars!

I at least was not referring to you Peter or any one person with my comments. I think if you go back to the start of the thread and try to see through the OP’s eyes as you peruse everything, you’d see that - from the OP’s perspective - quite a bit of the comments have been unhelpful and of a “blame the questioner” nature.

Again this is not directed at you but rather the tone of quite a few of the comments.

I at least was not referring to you Peter or any one person with my comments. I think if you go back to the start of the thread and try to see through the OP’s eyes as you peruse everything, you’d see that - from the OP’s perspective - quite a bit of the comments have been unhelpful and of a “blame the questioner” nature.

Again this is not directed at you but rather the tone of quite a few of the comments.

Thanks Joe.