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- Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:30 pm
Mon May 26, 2025 8:05 am
Took me a long time to figure out why I was getting unwanted fringing on my text+ objects. Turns out the downstream multimerge tool was causing it via it's default "Over" operator. In fact none of the operators really worked. All except the "Held Out" and "Conjoint" operators left me with white fringing after I changed the text+ fill colour to black from the default white.
The Held Out operator would completely remove the layers below it (to be expected?). I was able to "fix it" (my situation) by using the "Conjoint" blend operator. After a detailed chat with the AI, it had the opinion that it was A bug. I don't know enough about these things to know if it was halucinating. Anyway. here it is.
https://g.co/gemini/share/b29111807836
Scroll past the first prompt to get into the discussion which initially starts off trying to troubleshoot text+ settings. Keep scrolling.
would be nice if I could upload images to this forum post so I wouldn't have to send anyone to the AI chat thread.
PS. I had to change the blend operator to Conjoint (from Over) downstream on all the merge nodes, not just multimerge in order for the text+ objects to have their alpha work as expected.
Note: the BG tool going into my multimerge tools is Solid Color but with Alpha set to 0
The Held Out operator would completely remove the layers below it (to be expected?). I was able to "fix it" (my situation) by using the "Conjoint" blend operator. After a detailed chat with the AI, it had the opinion that it was A bug. I don't know enough about these things to know if it was halucinating. Anyway. here it is.
https://g.co/gemini/share/b29111807836
Scroll past the first prompt to get into the discussion which initially starts off trying to troubleshoot text+ settings. Keep scrolling.
would be nice if I could upload images to this forum post so I wouldn't have to send anyone to the AI chat thread.
PS. I had to change the blend operator to Conjoint (from Over) downstream on all the merge nodes, not just multimerge in order for the text+ objects to have their alpha work as expected.
Note: the BG tool going into my multimerge tools is Solid Color but with Alpha set to 0
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{
Tools = ordered() {
MediaOut1 = MediaOut {
Inputs = {
Index = Input { Value = "0", },
Input = Input {
SourceOp = "Merge1",
Source = "Output",
}
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 968.667, 90.1061 } },
},
Merge1 = Merge {
CtrlWZoom = false,
Inputs = {
Background = Input {
SourceOp = "animate_up",
Source = "Output",
},
Foreground = Input {
SourceOp = "animate_down",
Source = "Output",
},
Operator = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
PerformDepthMerge = Input { Value = 0, }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 829.333, 89.1818 } },
},
animate_up = Transform {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
Center = Input {
SourceOp = "Path1",
Source = "Position",
},
Input = Input {
SourceOp = "duplicator",
Source = "Output",
}
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 696.667, 118.879 } },
},
Path1 = PolyPath {
DrawMode = "InsertAndModify",
CtrlWZoom = false,
Inputs = {
Displacement = Input {
SourceOp = "Path1Displacement",
Source = "Value",
},
PolyLine = Input {
Value = Polyline {
Points = {
{ Linear = true, LockY = true, X = 0, Y = 0, RX = 0, RY = 0.111 },
{ Linear = true, LockY = true, X = 0, Y = 0.333, LX = 0, LY = -0.111 }
}
},
}
},
},
Path1Displacement = BezierSpline {
SplineColor = { Red = 255, Green = 0, Blue = 255 },
NameSet = true,
KeyFrames = {
[0] = { 0, RH = { 41.3333333333333, 0.333333333333333 }, Flags = { LockedY = true, Loop = true } },
[124] = { 1, LH = { 82.6666666666667, 0.666666666666667 }, Flags = { Linear = true, LockedY = true, Loop = true } }
}
},
BTL_media = TextPlus {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
GlobalOut = Input { Value = 124, },
Width = Input { Value = 1920, },
Height = Input { Value = 1080, },
UseFrameFormatSettings = Input { Value = 1, },
["Gamut.SLogVersion"] = Input { Value = FuID { "SLog2" }, },
Wrap = Input { Value = 1, },
LayoutRotation = Input { Value = 1, },
SelectTransform = Input { Value = 2, },
TransformRotation = Input { Value = 1, },
LineAngleZ = Input { Value = -90, },
CharacterRotationOrder = Input { Value = 3, },
TransformPivot = Input { Value = 1, },
Softness1 = Input { Value = 1, },
StyledText = Input { Value = "BTL.media", },
Font = Input { Value = "Oswald", },
Style = Input { Value = "Bold", },
Size = Input { Value = 0.0755, },
VerticalJustificationNew = Input { Value = 3, },
HorizontalJustificationNew = Input { Value = 3, }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 576.667, 72.8182 } },
},
duplicator = MultiMerge {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
LayerOrder = Input { Value = ScriptVal { {
[0] = 1,
2,
3,
4,
5
} }, },
Background = Input {
SourceOp = "transp_bg",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer1.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "BTL_media",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer1.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, -0.166 }, },
["Layer1.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName1 = Input { Value = "bottom", },
["Layer2.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "BTL_media",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer2.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 0.167 }, },
["Layer2.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName2 = Input { Value = "low", },
["Layer3.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "BTL_media",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer3.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName3 = Input { Value = "middle", },
["Layer4.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "BTL_media",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer4.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 0.833 }, },
["Layer4.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName4 = Input { Value = "high", },
["Layer5.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "BTL_media",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer5.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 1.166 }, },
["Layer5.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName5 = Input { Value = "top", }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 576.667, 118.879 } },
},
duplicator_1 = MultiMerge {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
LayerOrder = Input { Value = ScriptVal { {
[0] = 1,
2,
3,
4,
5
} }, },
Background = Input {
SourceOp = "transp_bg",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer1.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "show_title",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer1.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, -0.166 }, },
["Layer1.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName1 = Input { Value = "bottom", },
["Layer2.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "show_title",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer2.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 0.167 }, },
["Layer2.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName2 = Input { Value = "low", },
["Layer3.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "show_title",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer3.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName3 = Input { Value = "middle", },
["Layer4.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "show_title",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer4.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 0.833 }, },
["Layer4.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName4 = Input { Value = "high", },
["Layer5.Foreground"] = Input {
SourceOp = "show_title",
Source = "Output",
},
["Layer5.Center"] = Input { Value = { 0.5, 1.166 }, },
["Layer5.Operator"] = Input { Value = FuID { "Conjoint" }, },
LayerName5 = Input { Value = "top", }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 574, 26.7576 } },
},
animate_down = Transform {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
Center = Input {
SourceOp = "Path2",
Source = "Position",
},
Input = Input {
SourceOp = "duplicator_1",
Source = "Output",
}
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 694, 26.7576 } },
},
Path2 = PolyPath {
DrawMode = "InsertAndModify",
CtrlWZoom = false,
Inputs = {
Displacement = Input {
SourceOp = "Path2Displacement",
Source = "Value",
},
PolyLine = Input {
Value = Polyline {
Points = {
{ Linear = true, LockY = true, X = 0, Y = 0, RX = 0, RY = -0.111 },
{ Linear = true, LockY = true, X = 0, Y = -0.333, LX = -0, LY = 0.111 }
}
},
}
},
},
Path2Displacement = BezierSpline {
SplineColor = { Red = 255, Green = 170, Blue = 0 },
NameSet = true,
KeyFrames = {
[0] = { 0, RH = { 41.3333333333333, 0.333333333333333 }, Flags = { LockedY = true, Loop = true } },
[124] = { 1, LH = { 82.6666666666667, 0.666666666666667 }, Flags = { Linear = true, LockedY = true, Loop = true } }
}
},
transp_bg = Background {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
GlobalOut = Input { Value = 124, },
Width = Input { Value = 1920, },
Height = Input { Value = 1080, },
UseFrameFormatSettings = Input { Value = 1, },
["Gamut.SLogVersion"] = Input { Value = FuID { "SLog2" }, },
TopLeftRed = Input { Value = 0.47843137254902, },
TopLeftGreen = Input { Value = 0.47843137254902, },
TopLeftBlue = Input { Value = 0.47843137254902, },
TopLeftAlpha = Input { Value = 0, }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 443.333, 69.1818 } },
},
show_title = TextPlus {
NameSet = true,
Inputs = {
GlobalOut = Input { Value = 124, },
Width = Input { Value = 1920, },
Height = Input { Value = 1080, },
UseFrameFormatSettings = Input { Value = 1, },
["Gamut.ColorSpaceNest"] = Input { Value = 1, },
["Gamut.GammaSpaceNest"] = Input { Value = 1, },
["Gamut.SLogVersion"] = Input { Value = FuID { "SLog2" }, },
Wrap = Input { Value = 1, },
LayoutRotation = Input { Value = 1, },
TransformRotation = Input { Value = 1, },
LineAngleZ = Input { Value = 90, },
CharacterRotationOrder = Input { Value = 3, },
TransformPivot = Input { Value = 1, },
TransformShear = Input { Value = 1, },
TransformSize = Input { Value = 1, },
Overlap1 = Input { Value = 0, },
JoinStyle1 = Input { Value = 0, },
Red1 = Input { Value = 0, },
Green1 = Input { Value = 0, },
Blue1 = Input { Value = 0, },
Softness1 = Input { Value = 1, },
SoftnessBlend1 = Input { Value = 0, },
Rotation1 = Input { Value = 1, },
PivotNest1 = Input { Value = 1, },
Shear1 = Input { Value = 1, },
Size1 = Input { Value = 1, },
StyledText = Input { Value = "between the lines", },
Font = Input { Value = "Oswald", },
Style = Input { Value = "Bold", },
Size = Input { Value = 0.0442, },
VerticalJustificationNew = Input { Value = 3, },
HorizontalJustificationNew = Input { Value = 3, },
AdvancedFontControls = Input { Value = 1, },
CommentsNest = Input { Value = 0, },
FrameRenderScriptNest = Input { Value = 0, }
},
ViewInfo = OperatorInfo { Pos = { 574, -19.3032 } },
}
}
}
