Resolve presets + standards naming

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Andrew Kolakowski

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Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 10:57 am

I've just noticed that Resolve 17.4 presets are not very good. BM keeps trying to simplify them, but so far end results are not very convincing at all.

Focusing on 17.4 as latest version.
Automatic color management=ON
Color Processing Mode= HDR
Output Color Space = HDR PQ
Is gamut limited to P3? (if you untick auto and then go to custom mode you will find out it's NOT)

About any delivery requires Rec.2100 (because P3 is not a 'transmission' standard), so actual used gamut should be clearly stated:
    HDR PQ (P3 limited)
    HDR PQ (Rec.2100)
    HDR HLG (P3 limited)
    HDR HLG (Rec.2100)
Not even sure if we need Rec.2100 as typically all (?) grading is done to P3 limited gamut within Rec.2100.

I don't know why we need so many option saying Rec.2020 ST2084 XXXX nits (same with P3 XX nits) where just one line below you have Mastering to XXX nits option. 1 place is enough to set mastering nits, no? It all gets confusing and messy for no reason.
Besides - Rec.2020 should not be used (even if this is just a gamut description) with HDR. If anything at all of Rec.2020 XXX nits presets should be called Rec.2100 XX nits.
As for today (actually good last few years) using Rec.2020 1000nits is simply technically incorrect as Rec.2020 is defined for SDR content (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Rec.2100 was defined in 2016 so why for all these past years everything regarding HDR was (still is) using Rec.2020 (naming), which is for SDR content?

Rec.2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 there is no such a thing ? If anything it should be called Rec.2100 HLG ARIB STD-B67?
We straight away (after new standard introduction) have another industry mess present in top grading tool.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 1:38 pm

DRCM couldn’t be more straightforward. It is difficult to conceive of an easier system. There is nothing confusing about it whatsoever. Not to mention that the new HDR palette is brilliant.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 1:44 pm

Please put some meaningful content to you message as without it's has 0 value and meaning.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 1:47 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Please put some meaningful content to you message as without it's has 0 value and meaning.
The meaning is quite clear.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 1:57 pm

Good presets are cool as long as they provide correct start, specially for people who don't know HDR that well.
Current ones are far from it.
Your 'brilliance' description is worth as much as Apple's pr crap :D
It just misleads a lot of people and puts you in bad light.

There is no meaning as your statements as it's supported by NOTHING just your opinion and this is far not enough for objective subject. This is not politics, you have to use fact and knowledge to prove one or another.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 2:13 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Good presets are cool as long as they provide correct start, specially for people who don't know HDR that well.
Current ones are far from it.
Your 'brilliance' description is worth as much as Apple's pr crap :D
It just misleads a lot of people and puts you in bad light.

There is no meaning as your statements as it's supported by NOTHING just your opinion and this is far not enough for objective subject. This is not politics, you have to use fact and knowledge to prove one or another.
People who don’t understand HDR can find lots of resources online.
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Re: Resolve presets + standards naming

PostThu Oct 28, 2021 2:28 pm

And then they read your posts and got wrong info. We are back to the beginning :D
There is nothing wrong with been sometimes incorrect. Beauty is to admit it and correct it. Problem is that so many "internet experts" have huge problem with it, so finding good resource is actually not that easy at all.
Professional program itself should be your first point.

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