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Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Nov 04, 2021 5:07 pm

I just upgraded to Davinci Resolve Studio 17.4.1 Build 4 and have noticed the following odd behavior:

For new clips that have been added to the timeline, I am unable to drag-N-drop video transitions and have them overlap adjacent clips. It only places the transition on one of the clips with no overlap. See attached image for example.


I found I can fix for this by inserting the default transistion using the "DIS" button on the Speed Editor (which overlaps between clips as expected), and then dragging and dropping the actual video transition I want over top of that.

Bug or some change in the functionality I am missing?

thanks!
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri Nov 12, 2021 5:20 pm

anyone??

I cannot add proper transitions unless I use the Speed Editor first.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Dec 16, 2021 4:15 pm

Same issue in 17.4.2

Anyone seeing this?? very frustrating
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Dec 16, 2021 4:49 pm

A transition has to have video to come from and go to, and enough of an overlap, or "handles" to cover the length of the transition. This quick video I made might help.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Dec 16, 2021 6:07 pm

Charles Bennett wrote:A transition has to have video to come from and go to, and enough of an overlap, or "handles" to cover the length of the transition.

Nice video, Charles!

Yeah, this is why one of the first things you discover when you start to edit videos is that way back when you actually shot the clip you needed to have shot a few seconds of extra footage before the action starts and after the action ends. Those "margins" around the action (which are called "handles" in the Resolve world) let you add transitions, and they also give you more flexibility in moving the edit points around a bit to adjust the pacing.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Dec 16, 2021 6:27 pm

Drag and drop transitions works as expected on my system.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostThu Dec 16, 2021 10:58 pm

Thanks, Sean. As this topic crops up occasionally I thought it was so much easier to make a video than try to explain the concept with just words. :D
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri Dec 17, 2021 1:08 am

In cases where you don't have enough material pre- and post-transition, sometimes you can hobble by using the method of starting with a slo-mo version of the clip, ramping to normal speed, then going to slo-mo again (or even a freeze) at the end. Done well, it's almost impossible to see unless there's a lot of movement in it. Added grain will "sell" the effect even more.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostTue Jan 04, 2022 3:37 pm

Charles Bennett wrote:A transition has to have video to come from and go to, and enough of an overlap, or "handles" to cover the length of the transition. This quick video I made might help.



Thank you! this is helpful
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 7:16 am

Hi, charles, mine is different. It can not be place between, but always place on first clip or second clip only.
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Trim a little from the edge then joining these two clips not work.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 8:09 am

That usually means that the handle on one or both of the clips is not quite long enough so the transition will not centre on the edit.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 8:38 am

Charles Bennett wrote:That usually means that the handle on one or both of the clips is not quite long enough so the transition will not centre on the edit.

Thanks charles.
Hi, what do you mean with 'handle of the clip is not quite long enough'? Where is the handle located? Is it someframe on the edge of both side of the clip?
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 12:40 pm

A handle is the term used for the amount of overlapping video of each clip. So if you trim 1 second off the end of clip 1 and do the same off the front of clip 2 and butt them up together, you can place a 2 second crossfade in the middle. If one or other of the overlapping sections is shorter than that 1 second you will get the result you are seeing. Have a look at my short video posted earlier.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 12:52 pm

An adjunct to this if you have the Speed Editor. In the Edit page, with two clips just butted up together without handles, pressing the TRANS key will apply a dissolve at the edit point and ripple the clips to accommodate it.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 4:24 pm

bebfoo wrote:anyone??

I cannot add proper transitions unless I use the Speed Editor first.


Every now and then, I have such an issue aswell. When I then (using the Speed Editor) split a tiny peace of the following clip (where the transition is going to) I can then place a transistion.

Maybe that helps somehow
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 8:05 pm

Thanks @charles and @gunvlog
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 8:30 pm

The easier thing to understand :
if you have first clip max duration 10s, bring it to timeline (without trim). Then butt together with another clip, and add default transition between it (ctrl+T).
The transition will not work and will display popup that there is no enough handle.
Trim the first clip to 9s, it will remain 1s to be 'the handle' and the transition will work.
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostFri May 20, 2022 9:28 pm

Thanks very much Charles for your quick and clear explanation on Youtube.

I had been perplexed by this Transitions issue and found this thread by coincidence whilst browsing the forum. I use a Cross Dissolve of 1 second / 25 frames (UK) as a default via Ctrl+T for multiple short clips and I kept getting the Resolve popup shown in the JPEG below. I've been clicking on "Trim Clips" and that works fine. Now I know that it only occurs when I hadn't previously trimmed clips :- )
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostTue Jan 10, 2023 5:24 pm

For what it's worth, I am new to Resolve (free) but not new to editing. While trying to add transitions I was encountering the problem and I was NOT happy with the idea of mousing around with handles every time a transition was not "behaving" properly. While my workflow is conducive to the following "fix" I can't say it will work for everybody.

In a nutshell: while in the media pool if I select a file and select "Insert Selected Clips to Timeline Using Handles" the problem is no longer a problem! Even better was the ability to assign a keyboard shortcut for that action.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Can't place transitions between clips

PostWed Jan 11, 2023 8:15 pm

Also, if you have made a selection with In and Out points before dragging it to the timeline. most times you will have enough material to cover the transitions without having to add handles.
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