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18.1 is crash-prone

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 6:54 pm

Hello,

Crashes since updating to 18.1 have increased from almost-never to extremely often (multiple times in under 10 minutes).

Features which have triggered crashes so far:
-Perspective Stabilization in Timeline Tab > Inspector (repeatedly)
-Pitch adjust in Fairlight Tab > Inspector
*It has crashed in a few other instances though I cannot recall the exact trigger.

My equipment:
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macOS Monterey 12.5.1

I am not posting this in hopes that the community suggest work-arounds. I am not personally interested in "It works from the colour tab" type of solutions. I am putting this forward to make sure new bugs go on the record and this is my first post ever so i apologize if I've done something incorrectly. Feel free to post workarounds for the sake of others. Would love to hear from you all regardless- all perspectives helpful.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 7:25 pm

I've had 18.1 crash several times when manipulating a field in the inspector using the drag in the field technique rather than the sliders. This is on my MacBook in my signature.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 10:20 pm

My Win 10 PC crashes when trying the new Dialogue Leveler function. Does this get beta tested before RTM?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 10:42 pm

Crash logs as per the FAQs would help repo
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 11:13 pm

curtiswindover wrote:Hello,

Crashes since updating to 18.1 have increased from almost-never to extremely often (multiple times in under 10 minutes).
You know what macos is like ... try a clean install & see how that goes? ie, back up database; remove all previous versions /prefs /dependencies with something like CleanMyMac or App Cleaner & Uninstaller; Reboot & try the 18.1 again. FWIW, I can't say I'm having major instability issues with this one.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 12:55 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Crash logs as per the FAQs would help repo

I always write a description of what I was doing and allow the generated crash log to be sent to BMD at the time of the crash. Hopefully those are used?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 3:21 am

@Curtis: I'd update to Monterey 12.6.1
@Steve: I'd stay away from Ventura until it's mature.

My config is reasonably stable with 18.1 until now (knocking on wood).
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 4:04 am

Uli Plank wrote:@Curtis: I'd update to Monterey 12.6.1
@Steve: I'd stay away from Ventura until it's mature.

My config is reasonably stable with 18.1 until now (knocking on wood).

Could be a problem with Ventura that will be fixed by Apple but it may also be a change that requires a fix from BMD. They need to support Ventura in the next few months.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 5:06 am

Of course, and I'm quite sure that they are at it.
But until then, I'd not risk changing two important parts of my workflow at the same time. Going 18.1 is all the risk I want to take. Other than with MacOS, I can always revert if needed (sure I got a backup).
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 5:15 am

Thanks for sharing.
What version did you upgraded from?
Was it 18.0… or earlier release?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 5:27 am

I came from 18.0.4, which was very stable for me.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 8:15 am

Steve Alexander wrote:
Peter Chamberlain wrote:Crash logs as per the FAQs would help repo

I always write a description of what I was doing and allow the generated crash log to be sent to BMD at the time of the crash. Hopefully those are used?


Thank you. Yes, we do look at descriptions alongside the diagnostic details.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 8:55 am

I have v 18.1 Crashing whilst rendering a project and sometimes after opening.

You can find the logs here: http://stormenet.be/stormenet/DaVinci-R ... 347,89.zip

For the moment I downgraded back to 18.0.4
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 10:52 am

Thomas
Did You lose any changes made in a project in 18.1 going back to 18.04 ?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 10:59 am

Henry S wrote:Thomas
Did You lose any changes made in a project in 18.1 going back to 18.04 ?


Well, as I generally don't trust big releases anymore from Davinci resolve I take a backup of my databases before updating. Which is what they also advice.

Also you cannot use a project from 18.1 back in 18.0.4 since the databases are not compatible between those two. So the only way to go back to 18.0.4 is to have backups!
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 1:29 pm

Crashes when trimming audio. DRS 18.1
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 1:39 pm

AlanKass wrote:My Win 10 PC crashes when trying the new Dialogue Leveler function. Does this get beta tested before RTM?



Until the final version we are all beta testing.


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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 4:20 pm

ricardo marty wrote:
AlanKass wrote:My Win 10 PC crashes when trying the new Dialogue Leveler function. Does this get beta tested before RTM?


Until the final version we are all beta testing.



Why did that sound so spiritual?

Thanks everyone for sharing. I'm going to hold off on the Ventura update temporarily. For now I'll run Clean My Mac and as long as BMD knows about these problems, I trust they'll be solving them behind the scenes, with time.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostTue Nov 15, 2022 5:40 pm

Tried editing a video that i edit every day (has lots of items in it that doesn't change) and i had 10+ crashes just playing the timeline. Usually takes me 10-15 min to edit and today took me 45+ due to crashes. Also had it crash on one of the renders.

Anyone else experiencing the audio lag when they hit play on their timeline and it takes a second or 2 for the audio to start playing?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 8:58 am

pcameron wrote:Tried editing a video that i edit every day (has lots of items in it that doesn't change) and i had 10+ crashes just playing the timeline. Usually takes me 10-15 min to edit and today took me 45+ due to crashes. Also had it crash on one of the renders.

Anyone else experiencing the audio lag when they hit play on their timeline and it takes a second or 2 for the audio to start playing?


I would advise downgrading for the moment until the next update ;)
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 3:11 pm

curtiswindover wrote:Hello,

Crashes since updating to 18.1 have increased from almost-never to extremely often (multiple times in under 10 minutes).

Features which have triggered crashes so far:
-Perspective Stabilization in Timeline Tab > Inspector (repeatedly)
-Pitch adjust in Fairlight Tab > Inspector
*It has crashed in a few other instances though I cannot recall the exact trigger.

My equipment:
M1 Macbook Pro 2020 (13-inch, 16 gb ram)
macOS Monterey 12.5.1

I am not posting this in hopes that the community suggest work-arounds. I am not personally interested in "It works from the colour tab" type of solutions. I am putting this forward to make sure new bugs go on the record and this is my first post ever so i apologize if I've done something incorrectly. Feel free to post workarounds for the sake of others. Would love to hear from you all regardless- all perspectives helpful.


Here’s the fix:

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 3:51 pm

Touch wood, I haven't had any crashes so far, My speed problem was caused by a bad downloaded (or installed) GPU driver.
Ar all these problems not traceable by the version of Windows ?
I'm not saying BMD is flawless, bud my experience tells me not to trust Windows.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 4:38 pm

I have had several crashes with 18.1.
For example: 1) turning on the Dialog Leveler function 2) just being idle after export was done
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 5:54 pm

Henry S wrote:Touch wood, I haven't had any crashes so far, My speed problem was caused by a bad downloaded (or installed) GPU driver.
Ar all these problems not traceable by the version of Windows ?
I'm not saying BMD is flawless, bud my experience tells me not to trust Windows.

If the only thing changed is the installed version of Davinci resolve then the issue is not the other stuff that hasn't changed.
Even more so when downgrading back to the previous version of DR makes all the crashes go away ;)
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 6:33 pm

FWIW I haven't had a crash in 18.1 yet. Some bugginess with the voice isolator that will hopefully get worked out but no crashes yet.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 9:43 pm

I loaded the new up date and now the soft ware wont work. i tried reloading the soft ware i purchased version 15 i have all of the soft ware and the code. That didn't help. is their a certain way to load the original package to get up to speed again. I need quick information to do this. I love the soft ware and don't see my self changing to another package. so Can You Help Me.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 10:03 pm

Crashes after I selected upscaling for a clip. I am not able to open that project again. DaVinci shuts down immediately. :(

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostWed Nov 16, 2022 11:57 pm

@Guydell
Which was the last version working for you?
The license you bought for 15 is still good.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostThu Nov 17, 2022 2:46 am

Here is the fix

Fixed it by going to preferences and the 'memory and gpu' TAB. LOWER the 'resolve memory usage' to 50% lower and your problem should be solved.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostThu Nov 17, 2022 3:48 am

I recently had my all-time strangest program crash ever, and it was with DR. I had saved my project and shut down DR. About a minute later, a crash window for DR popped up. I gave all the deets and submitted the crash report. But, this is the first time I have ever had a program crash AFTER I had already closed it.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostThu Nov 17, 2022 7:46 am

18.1 has been one of the more stable builds I can recall recently.

However, I only use the Fairlight page (on rare occasion I wander over to the Edit page or Delivery, but almost only Fairlight).

Things have really been improving there as far as I've seen so far.

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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostThu Nov 17, 2022 8:23 am

AnthonyReno wrote:But, this is the first time I have ever had a program crash AFTER I had already closed it.

A lot of stuff happens after you close it. All the resources are unloaded, objects destructed and so on. It can crash during this phase easily.
I do stuff.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

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StormeNet wrote:
Henry S wrote:Touch wood, I haven't had any crashes so far, My speed problem was caused by a bad downloaded (or installed) GPU driver.
Ar all these problems not traceable by the version of Windows ?
I'm not saying BMD is flawless, bud my experience tells me not to trust Windows.

If the only thing changed is the installed version of Davinci resolve then the issue is not the other stuff that hasn't changed.
Even more so when downgrading back to the previous version of DR makes all the crashes go away ;)


That make sense, bud counting the times an upgrade from Windows causing a crash !
I don't allow any updates from Microsoft until these updates are found safe by numerous users .
It's not the first I encountered problems even day's after an update from Microsoft !
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostFri Nov 18, 2022 5:53 pm

I can confirm this. Both on my laptop and PC. Laptop AMD GPU and PC NVIDEA GPU
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSat Nov 19, 2022 12:35 am

How did you upgrade from previous version? I read a suggestion to backup database then upload it again.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSat Nov 19, 2022 4:09 am

I have the same crashes problem. I found that crashes are most probably working on longer projects (4 timelines 20 min each - working fast impossible), working on smaller projects (1 timeline 10 min) is almost without crashes. I found that crashes are most often after doing anything with audio.
I upgraded from 18 PRO to 18.1 PRO. Version 18 was stable as rock!
I removed 18.1 from system and reinstall it without any help.
I'm working in WIN 10 PRO with more than enough resources.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 11:06 am

Having 18.1.1. installed I am still unable to open up my current project, DaVinci quits after 1-2sec without warning. Project dead till you hopefully fix it.
M1 Monterey, I used upscaled on my video (just set it to 3x), after that it crashed the first time.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 11:50 am

I also had a lot of crashes with 18.1. Now I have problems with gyro stabilization, it's always shaking at the beggining of the clip.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 1:25 pm

Sir Hannes wrote:Having 18.1.1. installed I am still unable to open up my current project, DaVinci quits after 1-2sec without warning. Project dead till you hopefully fix it.
M1 Monterey, I used upscaled on my video (just set it to 3x), after that it crashed the first time.

How much RAM do you have?
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 1:56 pm

Would you guys recommend that I upgrade to 18.1? I currently run the latest 18.0x version?
I do not have any critical work to do atm, but I have read a few warnings about the new version.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 2:13 pm

AndreasOberg wrote:Would you guys recommend that I upgrade to 18.1? I currently run the latest 18.0x version?
I do not have any critical work to do atm, but I have read a few warnings about the new version.
Best,
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If you're working on Windows I would wait for more stable version.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 6:00 pm

AndreasOberg wrote:Would you guys recommend that I upgrade to 18.1? I currently run the latest 18.0x version?
I do not have any critical work to do atm, but I have read a few warnings about the new version.
Best,
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I haven't had any major issues with it. One crash, but otherwise, it has been stable.
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 7:09 pm

Ok, I will maybe wait a bit. Lots of cool features though, but not editing anything atm (too many VFX to do!)
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Re: 18.1 is crash-prone

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 7:37 pm

I'm finding Resolve 18.1.1 locks up on exit quite often on my MacBook and I attribute that to running Ventura 13.0.1 but you never know - it could be a Resolve issue specifically.
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