importing Apple ProRAW

I have searched this forum and the internet for this import problem. When I import an Apple ProRAW image (not Apple ProRes video) I get the dreaded "Media Offline" warning. Has anyone been successful importing a ProRAW image into DR 18.1.2? My image is coming from an iPhone Pro 14. I have tried changing the Camera setting of saving the images as "Most Efficient" and "Most Compatible" without any luck. Converting the image to a jpeg works but image quality and information suffers.
This is a DNG file format.

DR doesn’t support ProRes RAW. Get Compressor and convert to ProRes 4444 or edit in FCP-X.

DR doesn’t support ProRes RAW. Get Compressor and convert to ProRes 4444 or edit in FCP-X.

he is talking about proRAW (still picture)

not supported by resolve - use any still RAW (lightroom or capture one, etc) app to convert it to tiff

Oops, my bad.

Converting the image to a jpeg works but image quality and information suffers.
This is a DNG file format.

Have you actually tested how much a JPEG image really suffers? Unless you edit and resave the JPEG image multiple times then there will be no noticeable loss in quality. And what sort of initial quality are you expecting in any case given that you are using an iPhone, albeit a very good one?

If you want to edit the image, then work on the DNG in any app that is DNG-compatible (Apple Photos even if you don't have Lightroom) and export as a JPEG for importing into Resolve. There will be no degradation subsequent degradation of the image worth thinking about unless you re-edit the JPEG multiple times.

Editing some raw stills formats in Resolve is possible but far from ideal. Much better to use the right app in the first place.

Thank you for your comments. Just a few comments from my side....

DR18 can import Apple ProRes video but can't import a single still image of the Apple ProRaw format (DNG)? I thought the DNG format was going consolidate all the slightly different RAW formats into a universal usable format?

I would think that Black Magic would want to support images from the most used camera in the world? It's not a high-end camera, but most video and still images produced in the world come from iPhones.

Thank you for your comments. Just a few comments from my side....

DR18 can import Apple ProRes video but can't import a single still image of the Apple ProRaw format (DNG)? I thought the DNG format was going consolidate all the slightly different RAW formats into a universal usable format?

I would think that Black Magic would want to support images from the most used camera in the world? It's not a high-end camera, but most video and still images produced in the world come from iPhones.

no, resolve can also not import proresRAW video

Gordon was referring to ProRes, not ProRes RAW, Mark.

Gordon was referring to ProRes, not ProRes RAW, Mark.

read the quote +g*

I was referring to his remark right above yours, not the initial one.
But, anyway, let's drop it, it seems it doesn't work anyway. For the time being, one should use an application for photography and convert. Nevertheless, it's confusing if that really is a flavour of DNG.

Apple is writing in their own support note: "ProRAW uses the industry standard digital negative (DNG) file format, so you can open ProRAW files with apps that are compatible with DNG files."
And then, DR can open DNGs, not only from their own older cameras, but from DJI drones too. Maybe it's just a minor flaw with this specific format that BM could fix soon?

Agreed. I will drop it for now and live with converted TIFFs or JPEG stills. Maybe Apple screwed up their implementation of saving to the DNG format. I also wonder if it is that difficult for Black Magic to add Apple's version of RAW images to their import list of compatible image formats.

There are alot of us who think DR is their favorite video editor. Everything can be done within DR's 7 pages/panels. We use iPhones and DJI cameras because they are reasonably priced, prosumer quality, and small and compact.

Hi so I’m a bit confused, I have some footage on my iPhone 14 can I use use it if turned on in proRAW. Bring it into nuke as DNG then convert it to Aces colour space?

Footage or stills?

Footage or stills?

Footage

Then shoot ProRes (non-RAW) or convert.

I'd also like this; not sure how to request features with Blackmagic though.

Essentially it would probably be simpler for my ask to be - could DR please support all native camera formats (both still and motion) that the iPhone with iOS 17 can shoot.

Including but not limited to:
HEIF (8 and 10 bit, plus HDR) all resolutions
DNG (including Apples processing in ProRaw) all resolutions
Prores (all versions)


I also shoot stills in ProRaw; principally because, to as of this date, there aren't any iOS apps that save to HEIF 10-bit (although that is due to change with updates to Halide etc off the back of iOS 17's ISO HDR capability with Rec2020). The problem, which is quite common in image editors too, is that when the DNG is read, the application doesn't also read the ProRaw processing changes to the DNG file, so it reads it as a RAW with no processing. Oddly, Apple's Final Cut ignores the embedded changes as well. There is an option to export XMP's from MacOS Photos for DNGs which include the Proraw changes in a side car file, but I don't think DR can read those either.

As a side note, although BM state that DR 18.5 can read HEIF still image files; when it does, it randomly corrupts the output. I tried to get it sorted with Support in DR 17, it got passed to the developers but the bug still exists today. So I now export to PNG as an intermediate format. Not great, and extends post time, but works.

Old conversation.

BM (it seems) doesn't have a close relationship with Apple. Or something, which is speculation..

What is *not* speculation, is that several BM staffers have made clear statements that there is no expected support for ProRes RAW in Resolve... "at this time ... ".

Or ever, seems implied.

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