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how to export (render) to png sequence

PostTue Nov 12, 2019 5:42 pm

Hi! (sorry for my english)

I m а beginner in Davinci resolve. Just install free version (16) and do some project and want to render it to png sequence, but i don't find it in render menu.

is it possible (export to png seq)?
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostWed Nov 13, 2019 7:10 am

As far as I know, the only image sequence formats you can render to are TIFF, DPX, EXR, and Cineon. I have never had anybody ask for an image sequence in PNG, but I have had then ask for stills in PNG. You can export individual stills (not sequences) in PNG, DPX, Cineon, TIFF, JPEG, PPM, BMP, and XPM (some of these I've never heard of). I generally only use TIFF and DPX for exporting stills.
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostWed Nov 13, 2019 9:20 am

If really needed, there are batch converters for stills.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 4:00 pm

I have the exact same request. PNG is a pretty standard format for working with transparancies, especially on the web and in a lot of animation software, so I'm surprised this isn't possible in Resolve. Hopefully it will in the future, because doing all kinds of conversions isn't the best way to go and yet another tool to use.

FWIW I'm surprised that even TGA isn't in the list.
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 5:50 pm

EXR, ProRes 444 or DNxHD/Q with alpha are great formats dealing right with transparencies... PNG is great but for example I personally use it just for stills with alpha, never in sequences.
So yes for the web "standard" format, but in sequences (therefore clips) no, I don't think so.
This just about the format and its reputation, it doesn't mean it would be great to be able to deal with within Resolve
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 5:57 pm

PNG are heavily used in and for 3D rendering sequences. Main reason is obviously space.
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 6:07 pm

You can use the fusion page to export as png sequence.
Add an adjustment clip in the place you want to export, open the adjustment clip in fusion, add a saver node after the MediaIn1, go to the inspector, specify the filename and add a .png extension at the end. Go to Fusion menu -> Render All Savers.
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 7:13 pm

So, there's a simple workaround. And then, EXR is a great alternative. A developing standard, and capable of transporting more layers of information than RGBA.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostThu Sep 22, 2022 11:06 pm

Thanks for the answers. Sure we can discuss why we want to use a particular much used standard format and which format you like better, but in reality we're working with different types of software and jobs.

Many programs these days work with PNG as input and it's a great format because of the lossless compression and (semi) transparancy. Next to this not each and every project needs to be in prores and top of the class quality. Many final projects these days go to youtube or websites making high standard formats with the best of the best color spaces way overkill and inefficient that only fill up hard drive space.
And Davinci acknoledges that because it also offers formats like mp4.

Thanks for the workaround on the fusion tab and a great tip for huge video's to not having to convert files after rendering, but for the things I do it's not a very quick and easy workflow for the way smaller projects I do and I don't feel like wanting to set that up every time in each project.

Thanks for your reactions and hopefully Blackmagic will include PNG one day.
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostFri Sep 23, 2022 7:41 am

Hey
Just a word about my own little input above : I'm fully aware of the use of png in sequences too, AND I'm using 3D softwares too sometimes. Consequently I didn't want to understate the format itself, just for you to be aware...
It was just all about the % of WF which absolutely needs it in Resolve (I take the opportunity here to repeat I'd be glad too it would be available inside Resolve though).

Look, even if a project is to be sent on YT, I export a Prores and then Handbrake it to mp4 (or event send the prores :lol: , bandwidths are made for that), this is the reason why I wrote about it this way.
In the same field, I noticed that many Resolve users including me are focused on other topics, so that this format export is not a real stake anymore : even for MP4s I don't rely on Resolve, why would I for a png sequence ? I confess I prefer Resolve to do a great job in the range it is expected to than do a lot of things in lower quality (if we have the choice).

Now specifically about transparency : this is what's at stake, yes, and this is a huge issue when it fails, (for ex. it was a mess for months when silicon macs couldn't import PR4444 with alpha) , and BTW imho, the way it's sometimes treated in Resolve is weird with some files (though it goes better, the alpha output trick in color on some yet premultiplied files was cumbersome).
This is the reason why I wrote about EXR and Prores like formats : I'm pretty sure a huge % of users are yet satisfied with transpacency outputformats at this point, which actually doesn't mean png must not be supported but rather that this is the reason why you don't see much posts as yours on this topic even though it would be great ;)
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostFri Sep 23, 2022 9:07 am

Sam Steti wrote:Hey


Thanks for the write up. Not exactly sure what your point is exactly, but PNG is not low quality. Neither isn't a PNG image sequence the end product, although it could be.
For instance I could use it to export to animation software, 3D software, software used to build interactive and game stuff online etc.
Also a PNG sequence is a fine way to archive an animation for instance. Way better than uncompressed files and files with huge color spaces, multiple channels etc. for many projects, because, they only fill up harddrive/ssd space. And it adds up pretty quickly.

That said, I completely understand your points from other perspectives and thinking about other use cases. And I get it that it would be best to store things in the highest possible way when doing everything best way possible. But understand there's also a different reality for many day to day projects in other fields. With use cases and usages that can be a lot different.

I agree with you though that there are more important things to fix and add in Resolve than this. And I also feel you when you say it's best that Davinci doesn't concern more output formats that much for the same reasons you described. But on the other hand, it's 2022. Professional video software isn't only used for broadcasting anymore, but also for all kinds of professional online purposes. And they can have much different requirements, while still being professional and top notch in their field. It's just that other factors play an important role.

Thanks again for your feedback. I'm using Affinity Photo/Designer's batch processor now to convert the TIFF-files to PNG. It's not ideal and takes more time, but for the small length animations I'm doing that's good enough and not that much of an issue.

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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostFri Sep 23, 2022 9:43 am

maarten wrote:but PNG is not low quality
Of course I know... By debuts in video were after and along a long experience in PS/AI/QXP in "pictures which don't move" (nor speak) :) . Believe me I perfectly know the assets of a png, which is actually the format I choose for almost any still with alpha. Just a few are in PS or TIFF for layers reasons. I'm not to be convinced about the lossless quality of a png.

maarten wrote:For instance I could use it to export to animation software, 3D software, software used to build interactive and game stuff online etc.
I can understand this too. And therefore it's a pain to be forced to use a mid-way conversion instead of easily export from Resolve, of course...
maarten wrote:And I get it that it would be best to store things in the highest possible way when doing everything best way possible. But understand there's also a different reality for many day to day projects in other fields. With use cases and usages that can be a lot different.
Of course I know, I'm into a lot of projects which have other destinations than TV ou theatres, like animation, webstream or websites. More and more btw... But as I always (98%) export a master first, you can understand my POV
maarten wrote:I'm using Affinity Photo/Designer's batch processor now to convert the TIFF-files to PNG
Well ok, nobody's perfect :) ;)
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostSun Sep 25, 2022 7:50 am

Sam Steti wrote:
maarten wrote:I'm using Affinity Photo/Designer's batch processor now to convert the TIFF-files to PNG
Well ok, nobody's perfect :) ;)


What do you mean?
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostSun Sep 25, 2022 2:46 pm

Just kiddin', forget it :|
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostSat Oct 01, 2022 11:14 am

Sam Steti wrote:Just kiddin', forget it :|


You are one funny guy. I laugh my ass off
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostSat Oct 01, 2022 11:24 am

I am indeed; I'm less and less sure about you however...
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostMon Jun 26, 2023 5:44 pm

i agree with Maarten :

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Thanks for the answers. Sure we can discuss why we want to use a particular much used standard format and which format you like better, but in reality we're working with different types of software and jobs.


when exporting to client most of the time i just need to export rec709 8bits data. and png is the best format for me because of the following :
- lossless
- good transparency support
- small size on disk
- very easy to open in any software
- agency love it for using it internally inside AE for typo and language modification across countries.

I don't see the point of using EXR to export 8 bits rec 709 data to clients. I work with EXR during 99% of my job, but for client export PNG is better for my needs.

So let me add a vote for PNG sequence exporter.

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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostMon Jun 26, 2023 7:12 pm

SebKaine wrote:So let me add a vote for PNG sequence exporter.
You can export PNG sequences with DaVinci 18.5
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Re: how to export (render) to png sequence

PostMon Jun 26, 2023 8:04 pm

Thanks for the info Panagiotis, that's a great news !

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