Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

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Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 12:38 am

I am new to DaVinci, switching over from Premiere Pro, so far so good. However, I am having an issue with WAV files. I record my WAV files in an external device and always edit in Studio One Pro 4. The problem is with the audio level in DaVinci. In Studio One, I have my audio device set to 1, a good level for listening. I take the same WAV file and drop it into Premiere and at 1 on the audio device sounds exactly the same level as it does come out of Studio One. But, when I drop the WAV file into DaVinci, I have to turn the volume up to 3 to be at the same listening level. I have never had an issue like this with any software or devices till DaVinci so I am at a loss on how to fix this. The wav file is all set and level are perfect, it should be the same in DaVinci, any ideas?
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 5:44 am

Hi,

is it just your output volume or are the audio wave displays also smaller?

On edit page, there is a volume control with the button "Dim" at the side. Is this activated?

When you say you have to set the volume to 3, is that on your output device (speakers)?

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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 9:04 am

Have a look here. With Resolve running you can see that the output defaults to a lower level.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 3:47 pm

To Thomas, thanks for getting back to me.

The Levels and meters look right In DaVinci. All my editing software run through my PreSonus STUDIO 24c to my Yamaha HS5 Studio monitors. Premiere, Studio One and Davinvi all set to Release that device so only one uses it at a time, my PC is using an internal sound card nothing to do with this. I work for day to try to figure this out before posting. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and all the same.

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To Charles, thanks for getting back to me.

I don't use my PreSonus audio device for Windows sound, that is set to the internal sound card, but yes The levels in windows 10 for the PreSonus Studio 24c are the same when in DaVinci and Studio One so that's not it.

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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 3:51 pm

FYI, this is the same issues with both 32bit and 24bit WAV files.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 5:09 pm

USB audio is often finicky. I prefer and recommend avoiding it.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 5:24 pm

The PreSonus Studio 24c has been a rock solid unit and I get Zero latency, especially now with USB 3. I have had many audio devises over the years and so far this has been the best. I just use it for monitoring, and my MIDI keyboard and have never has an issues with it. I believe this is something in DaVinci. and or the way DaVinci is talking to THIS device. I don't see any ASIO support in DaVinci, I think this is the issue. as when I set all to use the standard (cheap) onboard audio card, all is the same level. how do I get ASIO support in DaVinci?

Also when I am in Studio One, right screen, and then go back to DaVince, left screen, audio releases from Studio One but as DaVinvi is playing there is no sound at all for about 15 seconds and then it starts to come on, off, on, then on... definitely DaVinci not liking my ASIO device. need to be able to set this up right in DaVinci. I have all my Video and Audio editors set to use my ASIO device and Windows to use my internal sound card and have never had an issues with this till DaVinci.

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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 6:01 pm

The one thing Resolve does not do is recognize or work with ASIO drivers.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Hmm, that's not good, what PRO audio do they support?

I know ASIO is how Premiere sees the device and it works perfect have never had any issues.

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Not sure how Studio one talks to it, but its there device and it work perfectly with zero latency with there software.

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I need a solution for this if I am to use DaVinvi. I record very high end audio with Neumann microphones and Sound Devices records, I have to have a good audio device for monitoring and editing that works with all, they need to add ASIO support to DaVinci.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 8:14 pm

I was able to increase the volume a little with the left and right gain in DaVinci audio settings but that caps out at +10 and I would need it to go to at least +30 to be the right level.

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I think they should stop developing Fairlight, we dont need another DAW, and get to work on ASIO driver support--thats much more important. There are already many great DAW's, we don't need another work in progress. What we need is ASIO support. I guess its back to Premiere Pro, what a shame, I was enjoying DaVinci Resolve.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 10:46 pm

First and foremost, Fairlight is primarily designed to work with its' own dedicated professional hardware which by all accounts it does well. So we may never see ASIO support. I tend to only use it for very basic jobs, preferring Pro Tools for the larger ones.
I do use it with the computers' onboard soundcard and have no problem with the output volume. That's why I posted a pic of the Windows volume mixer.
On the rare occasion I want to record audio into Fairlight I use a Behringer X1204usb mixer which has its' own dedicated usb driver. Resolve has no problems seeing it.
Your volume problem is a strange one akin to the difference between pro +4db and consumer -10db levels.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 12:41 am

Charles, thanks again for your reply.

I am sure the Presonus device has other drivers installed as Davinci Resolve does work with it, its just nice to have levels the same across the board. And for me the audio is the most important part of my videos. I just can believe BMD would not want to support for all the amazing device that most people use. For now I will just let DaVinci use my sound card. I don't do any sound editing there anyways, I just need to make sure sound is lined up and working.

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PostSat Apr 18, 2020 3:20 pm

Forgive me if this was covered already, but if you're running the different apps through different hardware or using different drivers then either check that the hardware actually outputs the same reference level or check 'deeper' in Windows' settings since I think there are several parameters you can set that aren't immediately apparent, and some of them can change playback level. You'd get to those windows settings by getting to the properties of the device that's used for playback. It's not an issue with ASIO since it overrides all of that.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 7:28 pm

All has been checked and tested, I am na IT admin for 30 years, believe me I have tried everything. it is defiantly a DaVinci issues regarding ASIO.
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PostSat Apr 18, 2020 10:27 pm

ajzapf wrote:All has been checked and tested, I am na IT admin for 30 years, believe me I have tried everything.


Just figured I'd point out even what may be obvious. I sometimes miss that myself.

ajzapf wrote:it is defiantly a DaVinci issues regarding ASIO.


If Davinci doesn't use ASIO then it has nothing to do with Davinci+ASIO.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 11:54 pm

To Mattias Murhagen,

When in DaVinci Resolve "ONLY" the sound coming out of my studio monitors is 30db lower then in any other software I use, or have ever used, I would say the issue is with Davinci Resolve.

I have spent at least 40 hours in the past week trying to workout the issues I am having with DaVinci, I love the software so I am really trying to make it work for me, so don't get me wrong. But we can put this low volume thing to rest. Davinci Resolve doesn't support ASIO so thats that.
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PostSun Apr 19, 2020 1:14 am

I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that ASIO should have nothing to do with this. I'm running Resolve on a Windows system that also has Pro Tools and Nuendo on it. The latter two use ASIO to access my Lynx TWO card. When I switch to Resolve it accesses the same card but "through Windows". It's nowhere near minus 30dB.

As for settings, this is what I was talking about:

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In my case the pro audio apps go through ASIO and there's nothing but a straight line from them to the interface mixer. In Resolve it's ultimately subjected to Windows settings (I think, though I'll have to double check). But even though it is it's not near that much lower, if at all.

If you've checked everything then I suppose I'm out of ideas. Hope you get it sorted.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostSun Apr 19, 2020 4:55 am

Check the Windows properties for your audio device carefully. Sounds like there is a pad turned or a gain turned down. I don't have your device and each one has different properties available for Windows so I can't help beyond that. You are used to using your device using ASIO, but with Resolve, you have to go through the Windows system for audio. Sucks, I know, and there is no shortage of threads on here asking for ASIO. This is why you would not have issues using your other programs, but do with Resolve.

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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostSun Apr 19, 2020 11:53 pm

my windows sound is using a different device, that is explained in earlier posts. My windows uses the computer sound card that is hooked to my stereo and my editing devices use the Presonus Studio 24C hooked to my studio monitors this works the best. so Divini Resolve cant use the Studio 24c because its ASIO, that fine. I don't do any sound editing in Davince so I just let it use the windows sound and come out the stereo. this works, all is figured out.

We can close this topic for now as I have spent over 40 hours fingering all this out and doing the forum.

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PostTue Apr 28, 2020 8:27 pm

Hi Charles Bennett . So you using the Behringer X1204usb , and have successfully recorded into Davicni Resolve witout any shoppy sound, or any other problems ?
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostTue Apr 28, 2020 10:23 pm

Yes, the x1204usb works perfectly. It's not a top of the range device and is only a stereo interface but I've had no problems using a mic or line inputs into Resolve. I do have Behringers' usb driver for it.
Nowadays they only seem to offer ASIO4ALL on the Behringer site. I have not tried that but assume it works just as well.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostWed Apr 29, 2020 7:50 am

John, I also have a PreSonus Studio 24C on my Resolve. its a nice I/O.

I'm on MacOS so its not entirely the same as you as on Mac Studio 24C uses the native OS core audio, no driver needed. With the monitor gain on full, dim off and no 'normalisation', my output speaker level does sound a little less than from my Studio One out but its small, no where near 30dB.

ASIO support or not shouldn't be the issue. We don't have it. But there should be no reason why you cant select the in the preferences as you have and have the level similar if not the same. If there is a big level difference in the Windows setting that Resolve uses, as charles pointed out, then id like if u could to verify that.
Does this Windows Application level adjustment get you closer if its set full?
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Charles Bennett wrote:Have a look here. With Resolve running you can see that the output defaults to a lower level.
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PostSat May 02, 2020 7:16 pm

But like I have said. I have "TWO" sound systems on my Workstation. the Widows system goes to my stereo with 4 speakers. And my Studio 24C goes to my Studio monitors...this way there is no changing things back and forth and this way works the best for editing and monitoring for me.

For now, until they get ASIO support I just have Davinci use the windows sound out the stereo. Hope that will clarify things for all.
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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is to low.

PostFri Feb 03, 2023 8:10 am

Has this issue ever been adequately addressed? This issue is alive and unfortunately, well, with my system. Resolve on a Mac M1 Mini. Compared to everything else in which audio plays, Resolve levels are -30 dB softer even though the meters are flipping up to -5 (to high for my comfort factor). I can't work audio levels with this issue. I'm resigned to guess work. Not good. This is obviously an issue, but no where can I find a fix, a resolution or another blasted workaround.
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PostFri Feb 03, 2023 8:35 am

Riclun wrote:Resolve on a Mac M1 Mini
Is this level offset present with both built-in audio and third party Core Audio IO?

Is the behaviour identical on the Edit and Fairlight Timelines or isolated to a particular page within Resolve?
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PostFri Feb 03, 2023 11:35 am

How about that "dim" button?

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Re: Audio Volume in Davinci is too low.

PostTue Jan 16, 2024 10:30 pm

So, I found that on a video I imported to edit that the Volume level within DVR was peaking around -6dB, whereas on my software mixer (Apollo Console), it was peaking about -12dB. Hmmm... Trying to solve why the computer output was fully 6dB lower than DVR, I found this discussion.

In my case (after checking Prefs and Options without success), I found my solution:
For whatever reason, on my Fairlight page, Top Right, the playback fader (with the audio icon) was set to -6dB. Maybe this is a default. Maybe I previously had some reason to manually do it that I cannot remember.

Anyway, by turning it up to 0dB, I'm now getting the true audio level out of Da Vinci, into Windows.

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