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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 3:19 pm

Hendrik Proosa wrote:I guess AMD is going to blow nVidia to dust with new cards, as they do with every release. What was AMDs upper hand again... lower price? Or better drivers, better feature set or better raw power. I guess everyone is dissapointed if AMD doesn’t deliver 2x performance for half the price now, they are the better one afterall.


Nice attempt at sarcasm. All of the above. This subforum proves that if you want a GPU without memory full errors you go AMD, history proves the only company with drivers that literally destroyed cards was nvidia. Also define better feature set? On Resolve HBCC alone is better than whatever nvidia released feature wise, by a long shot.

Also you seem to have some anti-AMD fetish that you felt the need to bring AMD in a discussion about the 3080. Maybe stick to your anti amd stuff in the AMD release thread? There's one of those here somewhere.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 4:10 pm

vgs2003 wrote:For your interest:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... est%2F4%2F

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Computerbase.de is an awesome source. Thank you for that.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 4:25 pm

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What exactly confuses you, maybe I can translate it in simpler terms for you?


Nothing to do with simpler terms. It is OK. Thanks for the offer.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 4:33 pm

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IvanovS wrote:
What exactly confuses you, maybe I can translate it in simpler terms for you?


Nothing to do with simpler terms. It is OK. Thanks for the offer.


When you come with phrases like "in the end it doesn't matter to the end-user" then nothing matters for the end user so its not worth debating with you.

Now back on topic, with what mr. Werner posted above : https://translate.google.com/translate? ... est%2F4%2F ,for me, in Resolve, the 3080 would be a sidegrade with significantly lower RAM, significantly more power consumption and heat and its in line with the gaming results. Even less so in 8K.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 4:46 pm

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When you come with phrases like "in the end it doesn't matter to the end-user" then nothing matters for the end user so its not worth debating with you.



Your answers were non-sensical that it addressed none of the issues I brought up. We are discussing the price of the 3080, not 2080. I said "die" version does not matter to the end-user at all. That is an arbitrary qualifier you raised. I'm not sure where you got "nothing really matters" from either.

And also, you are now accepting the Puget benchmark? Didn't you dismiss it earlier?
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:03 pm

I have to say that I'm kind of surprised to see people taking the religion of GPUs so damned seriously.

It's almost like watching a playground fight at the local primary school :lol:

Unless someone really needs to buy a new GPU right now then why not just sit back, grab a beer and wait for the dust to settle before making a decision as to which is best/worst?
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:14 pm

mpetech wrote:
IvanovS wrote:
When you come with phrases like "in the end it doesn't matter to the end-user" then nothing matters for the end user so its not worth debating with you.



Your answers were non-sensical that it addressed none of the issues I brought up. We are discussing the price of the 3080, not 2080. I said "die" version does not matter to the end-user at all. That is an arbitrary qualifier you raised. I'm not sure where you got "nothing really matters" from either.

And also, you are now accepting the Puget benchmark? Didn't you dismiss it earlier?


No, I'm accepting computerbase.de's tests. Puget still sucks as they don't use the same system to test the cards or the same amount of RAM or even the same settings. Nothing changed here.

Regarding the price, what I said was pretty clear. You are talking about 3080 as some sort of price king or something. Upping the price to insane 1200levels then bringing it back to normal levels (real price will be +100) isn't worth appraisal. That's what you don't understand. You're getting 2080Ti + 25% at 2080Ti+25%power limit for the price it SHOULD have been the last gen. If you think this is great, then you're exactly the customer nvidia wants.

For me, these are horrible gains for the "greatest generational leap ever".
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:19 pm

RCModelReviews wrote:I have to say that I'm kind of surprised to see people taking the religion of GPUs so damned seriously.

It's almost like watching a playground fight at the local primary school :lol:

Unless someone really needs to buy a new GPU right now then why not just sit back, grab a beer and wait for the dust to settle before making a decision as to which is best/worst?


That's what I'm trying to tell people. I keep repeating that it is my opinion that these are horrible gains. Somehow that offends people that they need to debate this.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:25 pm

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No, I'm accepting computerbase.de's tests. Puget still sucks as they don't use the same system to test the cards or the same amount of RAM or even the same settings. Nothing changed here.

Regarding the price, what I said was pretty clear. You are talking about 3080 as some sort of price king or something. Upping the price to insane 1200levels then bringing it back to normal levels (real price will be +100) isn't worth appraisal. That's what you don't understand. You're getting 2080Ti + 25% at 2080Ti+25%power limit for the price it SHOULD have been the last gen. If you think this is great, then you're exactly the customer nvidia wants.

For me, this are horrible gains for the "greatest generational leap ever".


I said Puget Benchmark, not the company.
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OK if you bring up $1200, then you do know "2080ti + 25% " actually increases the value of the 3080 more. You either compare it to the 2080 Super or FE edition because of price or to 2080 ti (@$1200).
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PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:32 pm

IvanovS wrote:Also you seem to have some anti-AMD fetish that you felt the need to bring AMD in a discussion about the 3080. Maybe stick to your anti amd stuff in the AMD release thread? There's one of those here somewhere.

I have amd cpu, perfectly happy with that. It is my opinion that amd has to deliver better and/or cheaper on gpu front now, unless they want the same aura of delivering questionable gains at questionable prices.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:36 pm

mpetech wrote:
IvanovS wrote:
No, I'm accepting computerbase.de's tests. Puget still sucks as they don't use the same system to test the cards or the same amount of RAM or even the same settings. Nothing changed here.

Regarding the price, what I said was pretty clear. You are talking about 3080 as some sort of price king or something. Upping the price to insane 1200levels then bringing it back to normal levels (real price will be +100) isn't worth appraisal. That's what you don't understand. You're getting 2080Ti + 25% at 2080Ti+25%power limit for the price it SHOULD have been the last gen. If you think this is great, then you're exactly the customer nvidia wants.

For me, this are horrible gains for the "greatest generational leap ever".


I said Puget Benchmark, not the company.
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OK if you bring up $1200, then you do know "2080ti + 25% " actually increases the value of the 3080 more. You either compare it to the 2080 Super or FE edition because of price or to 2080 ti (@$1200).


No it doesn't. 1080ti to 2080ti was a 30% increase at 699MSRP. 2080ti to 3080 is 25-30% increase at the same 699MSRP as before. The goal with newer tech is to get more performance at a lower price, not the same or higher. Going to 1200 then back to 699 isn't something to be praised.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:51 pm

RCModelReviews wrote:I have to say that I'm kind of surprised to see people taking the religion of GPUs so damned seriously.

It's almost like watching a playground fight at the local primary school :lol:


I don't think that's quite fair. The schoolyard stuff is coming from one source. The rest is reaction -- as you might expect, people will respond when called an idiot, a fool or anti-AMD fetisher, in a public forum.

Eventually, everyone comes to understand that contradicting a usual suspect will end (as well as begin) with personal insults. Which is "prolly" the rationale behind it -- make the whole thing so unpleasant, only one voice is heard.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:52 pm

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No it doesn't. 1080ti to 2080ti was a 30% increase at 699MSRP. 2080ti to 3080 is 25-30% increase at the same 699MSRP as before. The goal with newer tech is to get more performance at a lower price, not the same or higher. Going to 1200 then back to 699 isn't something to be praised.


1080ti to 2080ti was from $699 to $999. 2080 Super was $699. Not the Ti version.
You keep bringing up $1200 price point but ignores it here.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 5:55 pm

John Paines wrote:
RCModelReviews wrote:I have to say that I'm kind of surprised to see people taking the religion of GPUs so damned seriously.

It's almost like watching a playground fight at the local primary school :lol:


I don't think that's quite fair. The schoolyard stuff is coming from one source. The rest is reaction -- as you might expect, people will respond when called an idiot, a fool or anti-AMD fetisher, in a public forum.

Eventually, everyone comes to understand that contradicting a usual suspect will end (as well as begin) with personal insults. Which is "prolly" the rationale behind it -- make the whole thing so unpleasant, only one voice is heard.


Ah the "buy intel+nvidia" guy is here to spread his wisdom.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:00 pm

mpetech wrote:
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No it doesn't. 1080ti to 2080ti was a 30% increase at 699MSRP. 2080ti to 3080 is 25-30% increase at the same 699MSRP as before. The goal with newer tech is to get more performance at a lower price, not the same or higher. Going to 1200 then back to 699 isn't something to be praised.


1080ti to 2080ti was from $699 to $999. 2080 Super was $699. Not the Ti version.
You keep bringing up $1200 price point but ignores it here.


There were no 999 cards. Even Huang admitted in the 3000series reveal the 2080ti was a 1200card.
Here, I've linked the graph for you:
. See where the 2080ti sits?.

And I keep bringing the 2080Ti price because that was the TU102 die. And the 3080 is the 102die as well. First time in forever since this happened. The 3080 is a renamed 3080Ti. So yeah, 699 to 1200 to 699 isn't praise worthy.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:01 pm

IvanovS wrote:Ah the "buy intel+nvidia" guy is here to spread his wisdom.


As I pointed out to you before, you're confusing me with someone else. I actually make a point of not recommending any equipment, because I'm not prepared to offer money back guarantees, perform onsite tech support or write GPU drivers.

I do on occasion respond to other people's recommendations, but I gather that's also forbidden, as your new friends here have discovered today.
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PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:08 pm

What I like: speed, memory speed and the price.
What I dislike: the amount of memory.

The amount of VRAM is often a bottle neck in 4K for the GTX 1080ti and the RTX 2080ti and they have 11 GB of VRAM, this one only has 10 GByte, that makes it a no go for us.

Looking forward to the RTX 3090 with 24 GB of VRAM.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:11 pm

John Paines wrote:
IvanovS wrote:Ah the "buy intel+nvidia" guy is here to spread his wisdom.


As I pointed out to you before, you're confusing me with someone else. I actually make a point of not recommending any equipment, because I'm not prepared to offer money back guarantees, perform onsite tech support or write GPU drivers.

I do on occasion respond to other's people's recommendations, but I gather that's also forbidden, as your new friends here have discovered today.


As I've told you before, I'm not confusing you. I've lurked these forums for a long while and I've seen YOU make the same idiotic blanket remark."Intel is more stable".And I stand by that. Its baseless and idiotic.

Also I haven't called anyone an idiot or a fool except that remark of yours. So kindly stop with the "the schoolyard stuff is coming from one source". Only makes YOU look like a fool, not the other way around.

This is a debate about nvidia's performance and pricing. If you have nothing to say regarding this, then please take your insults and your high horse ("prolly") somewhere else. Exit...stage left.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:17 pm

Hendrik Proosa wrote:
IvanovS wrote:Also you seem to have some anti-AMD fetish that you felt the need to bring AMD in a discussion about the 3080. Maybe stick to your anti amd stuff in the AMD release thread? There's one of those here somewhere.

I have amd cpu, perfectly happy with that. It is my opinion that amd has to deliver better and/or cheaper on gpu front now, unless they want the same aura of delivering questionable gains at questionable prices.


Good, glad we agree on this.
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PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:21 pm

Ivanov, i have Intel+nvidia both at home and at work, they do work.

are they "better" (insert your definition of better here)? I don't know.
but to my experience they deliver the product that ultimately is the one that pay the bills. (and occasionally win some awards).
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IvanovS wrote:As I've told you before, I'm not confusing you. I've lurked these forums for a long while and I've seen YOU make the same idiotic blanket remark."Intel is more stable".And I stand by that. Its baseless and idiotic.

Also I haven't called anyone an idiot or a fool except that remark of yours. So kindly stop with the "the schoolyard stuff is coming from one source". Only makes YOU look like a fool, not the other way around.

This is a debate about nvidia's performance and pricing. If you have nothing to say regarding this, then please take your insults and your high horse ("prolly") somewhere else. Exit...stage left.


Yes, I'm absolutely guilty of saying, on one occasion, that Intel is the more stable platform. My sources? 1) Puget Systems, which said so in print, and which has at least as much credibility as you do, 2) a private conversation with the president of another large systems integrator and 3) exposure in the field, though at numbers which are at best anecdotal.

For the rest, the readership can decide on the value of your contribution here, and the sweet tenor of your posts.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:31 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:Ivanov, i have Intel+nvidia both at home and at work, they do work.

are they "better" (insert your definition of better here)? I don't know.
but to my experience they deliver the product that ultimately is the one that pay the bills. (and occasionally win some awards).


Thats great for you. I have never said Intel or Nvidia are worse than AMD or anything remotely like that.
In fact, they are great. Intel and AMD both have each other's tech in it. 64bit in Intel is AMD64 for anyone that didn't know.

However, with that said, it gets kinda annoying to see "Intel is more stable - buy that" when someone asks about an AMD cpu.

Point is both are stable, always have been stable. Even in the Bulldozer era when only insane people would buy AMD for pure performance, the AMD cpus were stable. The CPUs had poor performance vs Intel but thats about it. Intel had atrocious performance in the Athlon era. Nobody called them unstable.
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Re: The first Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Revie

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 6:50 pm

John Paines wrote:
IvanovS wrote:As I've told you before, I'm not confusing you. I've lurked these forums for a long while and I've seen YOU make the same idiotic blanket remark."Intel is more stable".And I stand by that. Its baseless and idiotic.

Also I haven't called anyone an idiot or a fool except that remark of yours. So kindly stop with the "the schoolyard stuff is coming from one source". Only makes YOU look like a fool, not the other way around.

This is a debate about nvidia's performance and pricing. If you have nothing to say regarding this, then please take your insults and your high horse ("prolly") somewhere else. Exit...stage left.


Yes, I'm absolutely guilty of saying, on one occasion, that Intel is the more stable platform. My sources? 1) Puget Systems, which said so in print, and which has at least as much credibility as you do, 2) a private conversation with the president of another large systems integrator and 3) exposure in the field, though at numbers which are at best anecdotal.

For the rest, the readership can decide on the value of your contribution here, and the sweet tenor of your posts.


Ah yes on one occasion. A simple forum search of your name and AMD reveals everything anyone wants to know about you and your recommendations . And you talk about my "sweet tenor" of posts like you're some kind of saint? When you use phrases like "Stability' is the one word you won't hear from the cheering squads.".
Others have called you out on your snarkiness so lets not play the saint card here.

On this note, this is my last msg for you mr. Paines. You can keep repeating your mantra in every AMD post. Its a free country / world.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 7:02 pm

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There were no 999 cards. Even Huang admitted in the 3000series reveal the 2080ti was a 1200card.
Here, I've linked the graph for you:
. See where the 2080ti sits?.

And I keep bringing the 2080Ti price because that was the TU102 die. And the 3080 is the 102die as well. First time in forever since this happened. The 3080 is a renamed 3080Ti. So yeah, 699 to 1200 to 699 isn't praise worthy.


So the performance to price ratio is actually very good for the 3080 since it is compared to a $1200 card - as you stated. So not only the 3080 is "25%" faster than the 2080ti, it is also 40% cheaper than 2080ti.
OK, now we are on the same page.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 7:11 pm

mpetech wrote:
IvanovS wrote:
There were no 999 cards. Even Huang admitted in the 3000series reveal the 2080ti was a 1200card.
Here, I've linked the graph for you:
. See where the 2080ti sits?.

And I keep bringing the 2080Ti price because that was the TU102 die. And the 3080 is the 102die as well. First time in forever since this happened. The 3080 is a renamed 3080Ti. So yeah, 699 to 1200 to 699 isn't praise worthy.


So the performance to price ratio is actually very good for the 3080 since it is compared to a $1200 card - as you stated. So not only the 3080 is "25%" faster than the 2080ti, it is also 40% cheaper than 2080ti.
OK, now we are on the same page.


If you only consider the Turing to Ampere switch then yeah its a very very good value. But only because Turing 2080Ti was an atrocious value. But if you take into consideration all the architectures that came before Turing (Maxwell, Pascal etc) then the value is very poor or at best the same (depends on which period you take into consideration).

The gains are the same as from Pascal to Turing. Normal gains for more power consumption. Far from the hype around it. There are people who sold their 2080Tis for 400usd because of the hype that 3070 is faster than 2080Ti. And based on the reviews this will absolutely not happen.
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Re: nVidea RTX 3070 499$, RTX 3080 699$ and RTX 3090 1499$

PostWed Sep 16, 2020 7:17 pm

IvanovS wrote:
mpetech wrote:
IvanovS wrote:
There were no 999 cards. Even Huang admitted in the 3000series reveal the 2080ti was a 1200card.
Here, I've linked the graph for you:
. See where the 2080ti sits?.

And I keep bringing the 2080Ti price because that was the TU102 die. And the 3080 is the 102die as well. First time in forever since this happened. The 3080 is a renamed 3080Ti. So yeah, 699 to 1200 to 699 isn't praise worthy.


So the performance to price ratio is actually very good for the 3080 since it is compared to a $1200 card - as you stated. So not only the 3080 is "25%" faster than the 2080ti, it is also 40% cheaper than 2080ti.
OK, now we are on the same page.


If you only consider the Turing to Ampere switch then yeah its a very very good value. But only because Turing 2080Ti was an atrocious value. But if you take into consideration all the architectures that came before Turing (Maxwell, Pascal etc) then the value is very poor or at best the same (depends on which period you take into consideration).

The gains are the same as from Pascal to Turing. Normal gains for more power consumption. Far from the hype around it. There are people who sold their 2080Tis for 400usd because of the hype that 3070 is faster than 2080Ti. And based on the reviews this will absolutely not happen.


The 1080ti MSRP was $699.

The performance between that $699 (1080ti) and this new $699 (3080) is even wider. If you compared 3080 to 2xxx series, the performance increase is very good and the price difference is excellent! If you compare it to Pascal, the price difference doesnt exise but the performance increase is astronomical.
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mpetech wrote:the performance increase is astronomical.


That's not my point. My point is the hype around it. Twice this, twice that when its the same as it was before. 30% (even less) between generations. Nowhere near "astronomical".

Nobody is saying don't buy it. Go buy it and enjoy the performance lift over Pascal. Because from Turing to Ampere at the top is not worth selling your 2080ti for a 3080. That's all. And again, this is my opinion. For me, going from R7 to a 3080 would be a sidegrade.
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Hi.

Reading one of the above reviews, did I find information on the coming RTX 3090 performance, that I will like to share with you:

Quote: 'If you're in the small group of users who actually need more than 10GB, by all means, wait for the RTX 3090 reviews and launch next week. It's over twice the cost for at best 20% more performance,'

From: The end of the 'GeForce RTX 3080: Is 10GB VRAM Enough?' paragraph in this link:

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Guys, please stick to the topic or expect to see action taken.

Explaining that you don't agree is one thing but debating about who is lurking or always posting a view that you don't agree with is not sticking to the topic.

Please just present your view and then leave it there.
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Anyone know if the missing nvlink is problematic for 2x3080 ?
Will Resolve distribute load correctly. I had dual Radeon VII which didn`t work on windows 10 so hoping a dual 3080 is posible. Dual 3090 with nvlink is a bit overkill for now. A 16gb card would have been nice.
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SylvestCorp wrote:Anyone know if the missing nvlink is problematic for 2x3080 ?
Will Resolve distribute load correctly. I had dual Radeon VII which didn`t work on windows 10 so hoping a dual 3080 is posible. Dual 3090 with nvlink is a bit overkill for now. A 16gb card would have been nice.

Does Resolve actually support nvlink based memory pooling? It doesn’t just start working automatically.
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Hendrik Proosa wrote:Does Resolve actually support nvlink based memory pooling? It doesn’t just start working automatically.

No. The interconnect bandwidth is way too slow to be useful for Resolve.
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Jack Fairley wrote:
Hendrik Proosa wrote:Does Resolve actually support nvlink based memory pooling? It doesn’t just start working automatically.

No. The interconnect bandwidth is way too slow to be useful for Resolve.

If it is a matter of rendering or not rendering at all, slow takes a back seat.
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Hendrik Proosa wrote:If it is a matter of rendering or not rendering at all, slow takes a back seat.

True. Hopefully NVCache and HBCC will let people limp through renders in the future. It's been a few years but Peter Chamberlain said in the past there were no plans to support interconnects. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=59845&hilit=+nvlink#p342839
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Jack Fairley wrote:
Hendrik Proosa wrote:If it is a matter of rendering or not rendering at all, slow takes a back seat.

True. Hopefully NVCache and HBCC will let people limp through renders in the future. It's been a few years but Peter Chamberlain said in the past there were no plans to support interconnects. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=59845&hilit=+nvlink#p342839


There is no nvcache...
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Waiting for benchmarks and the 20 gb rtx 3080 :-) still hoping.


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SylvestCorp wrote:Waiting for benchmarks and the 20 gb rtx 3080 :-) still hoping.


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Dual RTX 3080 20 GB should be the best option. And no 3 slot issue :)
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Lucius Snow wrote: Dual RTX 3080 20 GB should be the best option.


Hi.

Back in 2017 Puget System published DaVinci Resolve 14 GPU Scaling Analysis (1-4x Titan Xp):

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/artic ... n-Xp-1060/

Going from a Single to Dual GPU's gave them a Gain of 124-135%, but only for certain function as temporal noise reduction. Other functions didn't impact performance much.


The GeForce RTX 3090 have 10496 CUDA Cores and the RTX 3080 8704 CUDA Cores. That is 1792 CUDA cores less, or the RTX 3090 have 17% more CUDA Cores than the RTX 3080.

I am sure a lot of the forum users will choose a Single RTX 3090 with its 24 GB of vRam, compared to Dual RTX 3080 20 GB option.

And for the last couple of years, have BMD recommended NOT to use Dual/Triple GPU's, but a single more Powerfull GPU.

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Pudget released their 3080 benchmark.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/artic ... ance-1878/

depending on workload one 3080 is almost equivalent to two 2080ti.
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I've been waiting for these Puget benchmarks, for Resolve and Premiere as my card is a few years old now. I'm not a heavy Resolve user, but if things like noise reduction could speed up, that would save me time.

Resolve shows a bigger advantage on the 3080 than Premiere. I'll be interested to see the 3070 benchmarks too.
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The first Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming OC Reviews.

Hi.

It is now time for the first RTX 3080 Partner boards Reviews.

Here are some links to Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming OC Reviews:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/as ... -oc-review

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/a ... iew,1.html

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Lucius Snow wrote:The 3090 with two slots! :D

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/ ... BO-24GD#kf


A single blower fan - we need to wait for the cooling vs noise and temp reviews ...
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G0bble wrote:
Lucius Snow wrote:The 3090 with two slots! :D

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/ ... BO-24GD#kf


A single blower fan - we need to wait for the cooling vs noise and temp reviews ...


Blower fan is better if you plan to put more than 1 GPU in a case.
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Re: The first Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming OC Reviews.

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mpetech wrote:
G0bble wrote:
Lucius Snow wrote:The 3090 with two slots! :D

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/ ... BO-24GD#kf


A single blower fan - we need to wait for the cooling vs noise and temp reviews ...


Blower fan is better if you plan to put more than 1 GPU in a case.


And will fit in a small case! Only 10.5" long. The 3090 FE would never fit in my small case.
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The 3090 doesn't look that good compared to the 3080.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

It's the same silicon as the 3080 (and also the same drivers), it uses around 10% more power and is around 10% faster.
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For me the possibility of running dual Cards has a high priority. I only have one PC so during export i need to wait, i do not need the 3090, but love the thought that i can go one up. So any tests with resolve in a dual card setup in windows is interesting. my dream setup was the dual 16gb radeons VII because the speed and headroom was more than enough if i could get them running. Dual 10gb 3080 would be perfect but will i work? any one seen anyone try?
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MishaEngel wrote:The 3090 doesn't look that good compared to the 3080.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

It's the same silicon as the 3080 (and also the same drivers), it uses around 10% more power and is around 10% faster.


Yes, but wouldn't the extra vram be interesting (enough) for us resolve users?
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Wouter Bouwens wrote:
MishaEngel wrote:The 3090 doesn't look that good compared to the 3080.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

It's the same silicon as the 3080 (and also the same drivers), it uses around 10% more power and is around 10% faster.


Yes, but wouldn't the extra vram be interesting (enough) for us resolve users?


On that note - is the common out-of-vram memory warning a side-effect of the way DR uses Cuda (corner case) or is it a deeper problem within the Cuda implementation itself? I saw reviews online that showed a 6GB RX5600 does not encounter this problem for 4K timelines due to the way AMD has implemented memory management.
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