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While decoding support has expanded dramatically, one hold back is an efficient encoder.

From what I've read in the past, AV1 is a bit like bitcoin, you don't use CPU or GPU, but ASIC, and software encode will never be a reality as to make AV1 patent free it also became ridiculously inefficient and slow, but that is something hardware AV1 encoding should be able to solve, but until then it's not very useful

FYI - MainConcept has a an AV-1 encoder - https://www.mainconcept.com/products/fo ... codec.html I can not speak for how well it works, or what speed it encodes at. My question was if it will be available for us DR users to access via the plug in.

Voukoder does have an experimental support for AV-1 encoding.

Does Voukoder work for Linux?

There is no Linux version atm. but in theory there could be.

Great news

Update
MainConcept have introduced a new beta for support of the Codec Plugin for DaVinci Resolve Studio on Apple M1. Please see.

https://www.mainconcept.com/join-beta.html

I am delighted by this! AS-11 delivery without Avid makes me very happy. The system in Premiere never worked properly for me.

Have you properly used segment markers and fill metadata for every export in Premiere?

Intel is getting ready to ship AV1 hardware encode AV1 4:2:0 which should be enough for YT depending on what you are doing. Whether it will be supported by resolve is a very different question. I seem to remember the next generation of AMD will support AV1 4:2:0 as well and NVidia will also if they don't already. It is being put in mostly to support video conferencing but will help with some use cases that people here need.

This is a very good addition to Resolve.
But as I posted here, we need a "Decoder plugin pack"
Ronan

Update

Starting today, the plugin supports Apple M1 silicon, the processor found in the newest Apple MacBooks and iMacs.

That's great news, considering the number of codecs they support in hardware!

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Update

Starting today, the plugin supports Apple M1 silicon, the processor found in the newest Apple MacBooks and iMacs.

Do you mean the encoder SDK supports M1 too ? So we can create plugins for arm 64 on macOS ?

Anyone experienced soft image with the free trial? Even when set to 4K 4:2:2 10-bit and constant 100Mbps bitrate it looks like upscaled 720p?

I hope this is because of it being free trial, don't wanna buy it then get these very bad results.

Bo_Hazem wrote:Anyone experienced soft image with the free trial? Even when set to 4K 4:2:2 10-bit and constant 100Mbps bitrate it looks like upscaled 720p?

I hope this is because of it being free trial, don't wanna buy it then get these very bad results.

Would be weird to blur out the result for a trial, it wouldn't show the full capacity of the product to be bought

Bo_Hazem wrote:Anyone experienced soft image with the free trial? Even when set to 4K 4:2:2 10-bit and constant 100Mbps bitrate it looks like upscaled 720p?

I hope this is because of it being free trial, don't wanna buy it then get these very bad results.

Maybe your project was set to 720p.

I tried the trial yesterday, HEVC 10 bits.

It's way faster than with Handbrake (on CPU, it can't export in 10 bits with GPU currently), better quality than the Nvenc version of Resolve (with a smaller file size)...I really liked it... BUT, it created banding (there was none on the original 8 bits footage). I tried multiple settings.

I was ready to just buy it (for the the quality/speed) but decided to try the trial.

Does it also work for Mainconcept AV1 beta?

No?

https://www.mainconcept.com/blackmagic-plugins#buy-now

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:No?

ok thanks

Update

The MainConcept Plugin for DaVinci Resolve Studio version 1.2 lets you do even more with a new DVD preset group and macOS universal binaries. It extends the list formats in Blackmagic Design’s revolutionary video-editing solution by adding the following professional preset groups for project export:

AS-11 UK DPP
Sony XDCAM HD, XDCAM EX
Sony XAVC
Panasonic P2 DVCPRO
Panasonic P2 AVC Ultra, AVC Intra

The new DVD render profiles enable you to create streams that are compliant with common DVD authoring tools on all platforms—Windows, Linux and macOS systems (Intel as well as M1-based)

Additional improvements include an option for creating Sony XDCAM files with Closed GOPs and the ability to view plugin information (like version number and license status) in the DaVinci Resolve Studio UI.

The fast, efficient and reliable Codec Plugin for DaVinci Resolve Studio is the officially approved companion to Blackmagic Design’s state-of-the-art software suite.

It would be nice though if Resolve would fully support *importing* all Sony formats as well.
The files from my Sony NX80 can be read in Resolve fine, but all the metadata that's in the file - and that for example Edius can read out of the box - is ignored even though information on shutter speed color and gamma space is all there in the file.

Resolve still lacks in reading metadata from different formats. Maybe 1 day. It's needed in Resolve more than in NLEs like Edius.

Simon Rabeder wrote:So still no answer on decoder plugins? I was hoping for ProRes RAW in the future.

Ditto!

However, I'm starting to feel like this is beating a dead horse at this point. But I can dream...

Scott

GlueFactoryBJJ wrote:

Simon Rabeder wrote:So still no answer on decoder plugins? I was hoping for ProRes RAW in the future.

Ditto!

However, I'm starting to feel like this is beating a dead horse at this point. But I can dream...

Damn, that's a good point. I had been wondering why there was an encode plugin API but not decode. And that might explain it: it's been theorised that BMD do not want to support ProRes RAW, and therefore maybe they won't allow decoder plugins because then someone else could provide ProRes RAW support, and challenge their own BRAW.

I hope that's not true, but it might be..

BMD already had hinted on the forum that it’s not them preventing PRAW support.

Robert Niessner wrote:BMD already had hinted on the forum that it’s not them preventing PRAW support.

Oh really? I've not seen that - got a link?

The bug we had with the Main Concept encoder pack is now fixed in 17.4.6.
Thanks for your patience.

Peter Chamberlain wrote:The bug we had with the Main Concept encoder pack is now fixed in 17.4.6.
Thanks for your patience.

Voukoder also works.
Thanks to the team.

Update

Cinedeck has announced cineXplugins support for DaVinci Resolve Studio!

Now you can insert edit directly from your timeline to a file that you’ve already exported. Make a change without re-exporting your whole file again so you can spend more time doing what you love, editing. Want to know more about insert edit? Check out the animated explainer here.

https://cinedeck.com/cinextools-products/#overview

Sign up here for the beta
https://cinedeck.com/beta-program-for-c ... esolve-17/

If you need further information, drop me a PM, I wrote an article about it.
It'll be in German, but there's always DeepL.

Good to see it happening (beta stage only atm.).
Those tools can be useful and been available for other NLEs for quite a time.

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Update

Cinedeck has announced cineXplugins support for DaVinci Resolve Studio!

Now you can insert edit directly from your timeline to a file that you’ve already exported. Make a change without re-exporting your whole file again so you can spend more time doing what you love, editing. Want to know more about insert edit? Check out the animated explainer here.

https://cinedeck.com/cinextools-products/#overview

Sign up here for the beta
https://cinedeck.com/beta-program-for-c ... esolve-17/

For business users only?

Pretty much so, but worth it when 10 minutes before a deadline a change comes in and you can't re-render.
For free there's Alex Mogurenko, even if not exactly the same.

Sergey Mirontsev wrote:

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Update

Cinedeck has announced cineXplugins support for DaVinci Resolve Studio!

Now you can insert edit directly from your timeline to a file that you’ve already exported. Make a change without re-exporting your whole file again so you can spend more time doing what you love, editing. Want to know more about insert edit? Check out the animated explainer here.

https://cinedeck.com/cinextools-products/#overview

Sign up here for the beta
https://cinedeck.com/beta-program-for-c ... esolve-17/

For business users only?

Why?
All depends on your situation. If you're desperate you can rent for an hour only.
Overall it's not cheap, but it's all relevant.

Alex's tool works differently internally (with same end result). It's less restrictive (doesn't need CBR file) but it's only for ProRes and only for video. CineX works with few codecs and also with audio. It requires strict CBR based codecs though.

Which generates the need for an extra step to prepare your master.
It would be great if BM could add ProRes CBR as an option.

It’s already there, just tick "Use CBR" in export options. It was introduced specifically for CineX.

My bad! Sometimes you don't see the tree for the forest

When did they introduce this? I swear it wasn't there yet when we needed it a while ago.

Long time ago- Resolve 14

I was so stumped that I had to check with my colleague why we needed the extra step in that project.
Now I got it: they used DR on a PC and had the ProRes files generated elsewhere. I know that DNxHR is normally CBR, but the client insisted on ProRes.

Has been a while…

So, great to know DR can take care of it on a Mac when needed.

MainConcept have released v1.3 of the Codec Plugin pack.

https://www.mainconcept.com/blackmagic- ... l#try-free

MPEG2 Support
Is there a timeline and Pipeline for editing and rendering/export out native MPEG2 files in Resolve via either plugin or native to Resolve itself, why hasn't Mainconcept include native MPEG2 creation in this plugin?

All still used specific formats based on mpeg2 are in the plug-in.
There is not much of generic usage for mpeg2 as it’s obsolete.
XDCAM/IMX and DVD is basically it.
If you need it then write to MainConcpet with request.

Hey. One quqestion: does the Plugin Pack support Resolves "Bypass Re-Encode When Possible" feature?

Didn't test it, but the option is there.

Hello,
Can any third party software developer create their own encoder plugin pack? I am interested in adding another JPEG 2000 encoder.
Thanks,
Aaron

Yes. You'll find documentation and examples in Resolve by going to Help > Documentation > Developer. Look for the CodecPlugin folder. Note that encoder plugins can only be installed in Resolve Studio.

AAC audio in import & export for linux would be a game changer .... Can that be added?

You can't do anything regardless import side- only export.