New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree approach

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Anton Meleshkevich

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New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree approach

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 12:44 pm

Please give us an option to bring back fixed numbers of nodes.
In v17 it is impossible to use any standard node tree structure for all shots.
Let's say I have node 10 as a trim pass node in all the clips. And I have different quantity of nodes for power windows in different clips before this trim pass node. In previous versions of resolve I could just set selecting the same node and I always got trim pass node selected when I switch for one clip to another.
Also I have node 1 preserved for CDL, but I have some nodes before node 1.

But now it is impossible to use this approach.

I know, there are many colorists work like this including @waltervolpatto
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 1:27 pm

+1

I agree, the new approach is useful for navgating tree with "pre node" "next node" but less useful when switching between clips
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 1:36 pm

+1
The new mode would cost me a lot of time in sessions
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 2:00 pm

And if you don‘t want / can‘t change the behaviour, I‘d suggest adding the ability to jump to a specific node via keyboard shortcut.
I only need 3-4 nodes to be quickly accessible most of the time in my node tree, so I would love to be able to create shortcuts for them!
I know this is somewhat possible via the big panel, but also that would take to much button pressing for me. I want 1 button push to jump to node x. This would be quite the time saver for most colorists.

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A bit more detailed why the old behaviour was so much better:
As most people do, I use a prevuilt node tree for every project. In that node tree I place the first couple numbers of nodes on key positions. So I can quickly jump via the next/prvs node buttons on the mini panel to those nodes that I always use. And this is without the need to look at the UI, so I can be very efficient and fast.
F.e. Lets say my last node in the tree is controlling my shadows. (Its no 4, even though I have 20 nodes, before that node)So I only need to press the next node button 3 times to quickly get from first node to the last node. I don‘t need to look at the UI as I alway know its the 4th node.
With the new way, I would need to press 10/sometimes 11/12.. times the next button to jump f.e. to the last node. it would be different on many shots. I would need to constantly look at the UI while switching nodes. And this would cost a lot of time over the day, as I need to jump to those nodes on pretty mich every shot. Constantly jumping forward and backward..

Hope this helps BMD to see why it is a problem

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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 3:11 pm

My suggestion would be to get labels behave like that
"Correction" jumps to "correction" to "correction" to "correction", and so on
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 4:06 pm

A user preference should fix this, there's pros and cons to each approach
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 6:47 pm

Tom Early wrote:there's pros and cons to each approach

I can't see any reason to exist node numbers at all, if they aren't associated with nodes. They become just a decorative thing and loose all of their functionality.
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSun Nov 15, 2020 5:15 am

Anton Meleshkevich wrote:I can't see any reason to exist node numbers at all

'Exist' is an intransitive verb, it doesn't take an object. You can't 'exist' something.

So...what?
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSun Nov 15, 2020 7:05 am

Jim Simon wrote:So...what?

I apologize for my bad English. I mean, this new node numbering is something that has no reason to be there in its current state at all. Because now it is just ...numbers. All its functionality is gone. I don't know how this can be useful at all.

"I can't see any reason for this new node numbering system to exist at all"
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostSun Nov 15, 2020 6:14 pm

Ah, got it. Thanks.

It's my understanding that nodes added 'before' and being assigned a 'later' number was an issue that many folks wanted corrected.

It's been corrected.
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostTue Dec 01, 2020 5:01 pm

Just wanted to bump this thread as I think this is important.
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostTue Dec 01, 2020 5:12 pm

+1
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Re: New node numbering behaviour ruins default nodetree appr

PostFri Dec 18, 2020 2:11 pm

Please add the possibility to disable node numbers auto sorting.

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