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Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 12:17 am

Hey everyone first time posting.

I did a simple test recording to show how broken my voice over is on DaVinci resolve. All my recordings are incredibly distorted and I have no idea why.

here is my davinci resolve test:


To compare I tested the same setup on Audacity and its sounds perfect.

here is my audacity test:


I'm using a Audiant evo 4 as my recording device.

Here is a screenshot of my export settings: https://imgur.com/UeB5KYw

It also sounds exactly the same during playback. This has been driving me nuts! Any help would be so awesome. Thank you!
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 9:52 am

That's not distortion, it is sampling error. Is the Evo 4 set to 48k, and are all your frame rates for the project correct? Is the sample rate in Windows Sound settings also set to 48k?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 1:57 pm

I can confirm this bug. It makes voiceovers in Resolve 17 currently unusable. Project sample rate is set to 48000, the audio card is set to: 2X 24Bit 48000. Reaper recorded crystal clear audio from the same interface, while Resolve failed.

In my case crackling and popping appears 20% of the time. It degrades over time and comes back right after. Tested using multiple audio cards. Please fix it folks.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 2:05 pm

Here it is - https://voca.ro/1nBSsOxRdmxm
Distortion starts during the recording and ends after 30 seconds.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 3:16 pm

Thats good to know that it's a sampling rate error.

Yes my audient evo is set to 48k and windows is set to 48k as well. I'll also note that I was unable to record in 44k and when I set it to 48k I was able to record but it sounded all messed up.

I'm going to check the frame rate that's something I'm unsure of.

I see some of you guys have been having issues as well should I roll back to version 16 do you guys know if it's been working?

Anyways thank you for the replies. Have a happy Thanksgiving for all you NA guys!
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 5:00 pm

Having just done some testing with a Behringer 1204 USB Mixer with an AKG D202 mic, the audio records and plays back without any artifacts. I have found some other problems which I will investigate further.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Nov 27, 2020 2:02 am

I can confirm this. I've had exactly the same issue the original poster had. If I uninstall and reinstall resolve studio 17, the problem corrects itself temporarily but then returns. I've double checked everything, and everything is correct. This was working perfectly in version 16 then in 17 this bug has appeared. I'm on windows personally.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 am

I think we have a fix in the works for this
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Dec 18, 2020 8:10 pm

I also experience popping when recording VO or intruments through fairlight. It's intermittent and no other DAW on my computer has this problem. I have a 12-core processor, fast GPU, and a decent focusrite interface. It would be a big help to me if this issue could be solved. I also had it on DR 16 but was able to make it go away (forgot how).
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Jan 07, 2021 5:06 pm

The problem still occurs in the latest beta. I have to use reaper now to record audio. Didn't see a mention in changelogs, so I guess it's not fixed.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Jan 11, 2021 8:53 am

Can you also capture the logs from your system and post here.
Also, as a test, can you see if you have a decklink device in use. If it is, try disconnecting and check if that fixes the issue.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Jan 11, 2021 1:47 pm

I do not have a declink. Can you explain which logs you are interested in? There are all kinds of logs listed in the Windows 10 event viewer.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Jan 11, 2021 2:47 pm

AnarchyAcres wrote:I do not have a declink. Can you explain which logs you are interested in? There are all kinds of logs listed in the Windows 10 event viewer.


In the DaVinci Resolve click on the help menu and select create diagnostic log to desktop.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Jan 11, 2021 3:01 pm

Does sharing the log file online expose me to any security risks? I can see there is a lot of information about my computer in there. Can I email it to somebody?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Jan 11, 2021 5:23 pm

Peter Chamberlain wrote:I think we have a fix in the works for this


I hope so. I have exactly the same problem. With Audient Evo and recording corruption/frequesncy mis match. It happens occasionally (the worst part).

Hope this gets pushed out asap.

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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 2:10 pm

This is killing me :evil:

Find attached Log Report

Windows 10 fully up to date
Control Panel Sound Set to 2 Channel In/Out 24 Bit 48kHZ
Audio Enhancements turned off

Also tried at 16 Bit
Also tried changing Buffer sizes of Audio Drive
Also tried with Zoom F4, Zoom H4



Audient Evo 4 set to 48KHz
Firmware 1.3.3
App Version 4.1.6


Link to Sample Recording
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cFVZ-C ... sp=sharing


Premiere, iZotope, Audition can all record perfectly with the same settings. :roll:


Reinstalled Resolve, after clearing all data and prefs
As Noted earlier in this thread, fixed issue for an hour, then it reverted to borked.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 2:58 pm

What is your Audio Block size set to?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 3:31 pm

It was set to Auto.

Just monitoring room tone you could hear weird digital 'chatter'.

So:

Set Resolve and Audient AISO buffer size 512.

Recorded nothing.

Toggle 'Auto 'back on

began working again.

:D

thanks so much for your response, Charles.

I'll let you know how long that 'fix' works.

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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 3:38 pm

Similar issue, logs attached
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 5:31 pm

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

20 Minutes of ADR recording and I'm back to square one.

Tried:
[list=]Restart
Toggled AUTO buffer size [doesn't record anything if you set it to anything but auto]
Shouting at PC[/list]

This is well and truly not working.

Any Blackmagic Response?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Jan 12, 2021 8:22 pm

Just recorded a 10 min v/o straight to a track in Fairlight with no artifacts at all.
Interface - Behringer 1204 USB mixer.
Audio Buffer in Resolve set to 256.
Project has Fixed Bus routing.

Trying it with Flexi-bus is a different story. Whatever routing I try, the audio will not go to any selected tracks. So that may be where the problem lies.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 9:54 am

What a hot mess.

Fixed Bus does NOT stop audio corruption on recordings.

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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:42 pm

Unlike you, I can set the buffer in Resolve to any value including Auto and it happily records in Fixed Bus mode. It does make finding the source of the problem difficult. Are you absolutely sure that all your frame rates in the Project settings match? Also, if recording to picture, is the video running at a stable framerate?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:52 pm

Steven Williams wrote::evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

20 Minutes of ADR recording and I'm back to square one.

Tried:
[list=]Restart
Toggled AUTO buffer size [doesn't record anything if you set it to anything but auto]
Shouting at PC[/list]

This is well and truly not working.

Any Blackmagic Response?


Steven,
Unfortunately recording into Resolve even prior to Fairlight has and is still a long-standing issue, with several reports to BMD support and after more than 3 years it's still not fixed. Even FCPX "just works" while Resolve still suffers along...

Save yourself a major headache and do all your recording in an external editor of your choice, then import into Resolve and only expect to make minor/basic adjustments and effects. Don't waste your time trying to fix Resovle's issues for them; that's their job and so far they've not addressed it.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 5:09 pm

Thanks Charles.
How depressing.

I often have to do bits of quick ADR and VOs , and wanted escape the tyranny of ADOBE.

When I did more 3D animation, I spent years hammering away a Newtek about their Lightroom app. To no avail.

I just completed a 40 video project in Premiere, with a project file that was more corruptible than a certain president...
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 7:53 pm

I was getting ready to do some voiceover work in 17 when I saw this. I was going to upgrade to the Studio version tonight... does that make any difference (was your negative experience with the Studio or the free version)? Not sure to get this package if there are sound issues...
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 8:27 pm

Just wanted to chime in that recording here in 17b6 works as expected and is clean. Tried with with both a Roland Rubix24 and a Sound Devices MixPre6ii (USB mode). Timeline at 29.97, 48kHz.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 11:01 pm

I'm using Studio Version.

tried again with:
empty project
Fixed BUS
512 Sample Buffer
48khz 24 Bit IN/OUT


worked :shock:

EDIT: If I copy a sequence from another project into the working Timeline - and record ADR the distortion returns. :geek:

All the pasted content is conformed to the same frame rate as the 'working project'

Go figure.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 4:08 pm

Day two - ADR still working. Counting my chickens..... Thanks again Charles.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 pm

Your welcome Steven, glad you can now work.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 6:20 am

ADR works fine in 16, but its completely broken in 17 beta.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Feb 16, 2021 8:22 pm

TomSid215 wrote:ADR works fine in 16, but its completely broken in 17 beta.


Are you using Beta 9? The repair list says they fixed an audio distortion issue when interpolating 44.1 and 48Khz audio files. I haven't had time to check that yet. From the update list:

• Addressed an issue with intermittent audio recording issues with 44.1 KHz input devices on 48KHz timelines when using FlexBus.

I've always suspected this was a clocking mismatch issue so I'm hoping that fixed it.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Feb 24, 2021 12:15 am

I'm also having issues recording my voice overs in DR17. Voice over is very distorted ... kinda like how they distort peoples voices in mob documentaries... Comes through just fine in Audacity.

Was working just fine in DR16 before converting to the public beta.


Neewer USB Microphone set to 1channel, 16 bit, 48K Hz



Edit: This is highly unfortunate to be happening when on a time line! :(


Edit2: I changed the audio processing block size from Auto to 512... restarted... then changed from 512 to Auto... restarted... and it seems to be recording correctly now. What is happening? Will this break on me again??
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Mar 18, 2021 9:44 pm

It's been a few months since I have used resolve. I had to stop using the software because of how frustrating this issue is. I love this software and is better than Premiere Pro in so many ways but I still never found a fix to this problem.

Really difficult to import audio into timeline each time when I want to record something to the timeline really quick.

Interface: Audient EVO 4

Sample rate 48khz 24bit
Block Rate: 512
Project framerate 60hz

Things I have tried.
matching block rate from interface and resolve from 128 to 2048 (Cant even get audio to monitor. Audio will only work in AUTO block rate. When set in auto audio still distorted.)

Using Resolve version 16

Tested in new project.

Should I buy a new USB audio interface to make it work? Is this only a problem with the Audient Evo 4?

still seems really strange that Audacity and Premiere Pro doesn't have this problem with my interface.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Mar 19, 2021 12:30 pm

Though I have never suffered with this problem, I've had a go at recreating it. So far the only way to induce this sampling error is to have mismatched framerates in the Master Project settings. The pic shows the settings with one mismatch. This introduces the audio sampling error as Resolve is trying to keep everything in step. So check your settings. :!:

As a separate test I also tried variable frame rate phone footage in the Timeline and added a WAV file. This ran perfectly with all the frame rates in the Project settings matching.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Mar 19, 2021 1:54 pm

Seems like quite a few problems with audio recording! I have been unable to record properly with a focusrite interface in any of the beta 17, 17.0, and 17.1 versions. When the interface does show up to in resolve, the recorded audio is completely unusable on a fairly powerful windows machine. All set to 48khz, timelines at 23.98 fps.

Noticing something in this thread - fixed bus vs flexi bus? Can someone chime in to what that is? I am finding the editing experience in audacity so taxing that I would still rather push on and see if i can fix my audio issues in resolve
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri Mar 19, 2021 2:51 pm

Thanks for the tips Charles. Made sure to check all my settings for the project.

Framerate
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Buffer Size
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Sample rate
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still getting the audio distortion. :cry:

Anything else I should check? Maybe send a error report although not sure how to do that.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Mar 23, 2021 2:43 pm

I'm having the same problem. It helps somewhat to record with Bus 1 output set to zero (no output) when recording (I use my Yeti mic's feedback option) but it still occasionally pops.

SURELY this bug is being worked on by Davinci folks??
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed Mar 24, 2021 8:34 pm

Hi guys,

I have encountered exactly same issue in my Davinci Resolve 17. I use DR for dubbing videos and fairlight is perfect tool for me..

Does downgrading to .16 version solve the issue? I'll have a try myself and let you know as soon as I've tested that.

Here's some specs of my pc if that helps in further analysis. Maybe it's a matter of some common hardware?

Focusrite Solo
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-core

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Downgrading to .16 doesn't solve the issue in my case. I'm struggling hard to find solution to that. Is there any information whether this is going to be rectified in some futher releases/updates?
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon Mar 29, 2021 9:51 pm

I'm using Resolve Studio 17 and I'm having the same problem. Using Focusrite Solo + Cloudlifter + SM7B. I haven't tried anything in the thread yet, but I can confirm that recording in OBS the audio was fine.
Its like a scratchy annoying sound when speaking, and also noticed that the levels were randomly going up and down even without me speaking., even with the mic disconnected.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Mar 30, 2021 7:20 pm

Coming from (30 yrs) in the pro Audio world: A lot of these reports sound like they could be clocking issues, or mismatched bit rates. Check your clocking in your hardware to make sure it's set to 48kHz which is the Resolve default if I recall correctly. (just checked, it is)

Also if your interface supports MADI set it to that. That's the only option in Davinci prefs. There REALLY needs to be two more options there: WDM and ASIO

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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostThu Apr 01, 2021 6:18 pm

I've tried everything that was suggested so far and the issue is still there. Tested setting it up to 48kHz in Windows settings & Focusrite settings.

As I said I upload videos to put VO on them. Can it have anything to do with the pop up window that asks whether settings of the video should be applied in the project?

Also when I'm going through "Preferences.." tab, I can see that under "Vide and Audio I/O" the option "Enable Fairlight Audio Accelerator" is unchecked and Audio interface is set to MADI. Or maybe that's something with plugins? When installed DaVinci I am pretty sure that I didn't choose the option to install full Fairlight, but some minor version.

I honestly don't know what more I could do to rectify the issue. I'd really like to use the software, as it's very handy, but this one issue makes it unusable for me atm.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostTue Apr 06, 2021 1:23 am

Hello!
Having the same issue, reading all the things. Tried all the same settings as everyone else.

You are not alone. Thought I was doing something terribly wrong. Fussed with everything for about 2 hours. Found this thread and fussed another hour yet. It's just plain broken :(

Why since November. I do not know. I want to know really if anyone has this working at all.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostMon May 10, 2021 10:23 pm

Still an issue with latest version.

Scarlett 18i20
SM7b

Garbled audio no matter what combination of settings I use EXCEPT sometimes I can get it working if I go into my Focusrite settings and manually change the buffer to a different setting.

Then it cleans up for a period of time. Only to re-garble later on.

I love Blackmagic but man do they need someone with true DAW experience on their team.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed May 12, 2021 8:30 am

Hi all

Please try with DaVinci Resolve 17.2, released today. It has fixed w.r.t recording and playback issues when using some external interfaces, so perhaps your specific audio interface shows an improvement.

Please post with logs (Help menu) and any detail you can record for any remnant issues you observe. Please understand that reports with descriptions like "Recorded with this hardware setup, these Resolve settings, these sample rates. Note stutter at 02:44 of this attached clip, compare to that other attached clip." help us more than generic "doesn't work still" descriptions.

Regards
Shrinivas
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostWed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm

Thank You Shrinivas!
Resolve 17.1.1 | Windows 10 x64 (Latest Updates) | AMD Ryzen 7 2700x
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostFri May 21, 2021 5:12 am

I am having the same problem with a different setup. I'm on Windows 10 with DR 17.2 build 11 free version, this is actually a new machine and the DR install is totally stock, nothing has been changed. Sound is totally scrambled and unusable when I record in Farlight, sounds like really bad clipping or samples being dropped. Does not change if I move back and speak softly into the mic, still distorted.

Tested this after a full reboot with no other software running.

I have a Rode VideoMic NTG plugged in through USB, confirmed it is set to 48k and set as the system default mic. The mic setup works fine when recording in OBS or Audacity. Same mic and setup works fine on a different computer that has DR16.

I see a lot of complaints about this in this thread but nobody saying they really solved it, or did I miss it?

Related problem is that even though I have several mics hooked up to this computer DR can only see the one setup as the system default mic.
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostSun May 23, 2021 8:34 am

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Solution Found
Hi all.
I too was having the same issues but I found the problem (in my case.) Whilst I'd changed the Microphone sample rate to 16bit, 48000Hz to match the davinci requirements, there was a conflict in the sound card for playback. It had defaulted to 24bit, 48000Hz causing the distortion as the sound card was recording at 16 bit but playing back at 24bit (and majorly delayed). Changing the playback rate to 16bit, 48000Hz completely resolved this issue for me and considerably reduced the delay through the monitor.
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Ed
PS running 17.2 (latest as of 22nd May)
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Re: Voice over incredibly broken

PostSun May 23, 2021 5:13 pm

I have been struggling with this issue since the 17.6 beta. Unfortunately this solution hasn't worked for me, but it has for some. I strongly encourage people to try this first, just double check your bitrate is also the same in Resolve.

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