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Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by SCLDUB123
Hi, what do people mean by the term Key? I've heard it used in the context of pulling a fast key to work more quickly or as a key output or key function.
Can someone take me through the delineations here?

Cheers!

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:08 pm
by Jim Simon
There are several definitions for "key" in this industry.

Key Light
Keyframe
Chromakey

Might be worth Searching for a web site listing "film terms".

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:24 pm
by Annaël Beauchemin
A key is usually a method of creating transparency using the image's specific pixels value. It's mostly either a chroma key or luma key. A chroma key would be either RGB, HSL, YUV, etc. Luma key would always be based on the luminance value.

Now, a key is different than a mask or a matte, even if they all are used to create transparency. Surely there is more info available on the web.

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:51 pm
by wfolta
Annaël Beauchemin wrote:Now, a key is different than a mask or a matte, even if they all are used to create transparency. Surely there is more info available on the web.

I think that the results of a key is a matte that can be used as a mask, though?

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:31 pm
by Hendrik Proosa
One set of words describes a process, other the result. Often they are used interchangeably and it really makes little difference.

Mask is the same as matte is the same as result of keying - a key. Masking sometimes means matting with rotoscoping but can also mean using one element to mask another, and it doesn’t have to originate from roto. For example using a texture to mask other footage. Key usually implies the process of keying: creating a matte with some automatic method.

Matte originates from “(traveling) matte”, which means hand-painted holdout used in multi-exposure photography.

Key, as in “chroma key” originates from a trade name of a photochemical process that allowed creating mattes from analog film.

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:20 pm
by SCLDUB123
Annaël Beauchemin wrote:A key is usually a method of creating transparency using the image's specific pixels value. It's mostly either a chroma key or luma key. A chroma key would be either RGB, HSL, YUV, etc. Luma key would always be based on the luminance value.

Now, a key is different than a mask or a matte, even if they all are used to create transparency. Surely there is more info available on the web.

You would have thought so, but I couldn't find anything satisfactory. This thread has been more useful.

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:20 pm
by SCLDUB123
Annaël Beauchemin wrote:A key is usually a method of creating transparency using the image's specific pixels value. It's mostly either a chroma key or luma key. A chroma key would be either RGB, HSL, YUV, etc. Luma key would always be based on the luminance value.

Now, a key is different than a mask or a matte, even if they all are used to create transparency. Surely there is more info available on the web.


Thank you!

Re: Terminology question - Key

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:26 pm
by SCLDUB123
Hendrik Proosa wrote:One set of words describes a process, other the result. Often they are used interchangeably and it really makes little difference.

Mask is the same as matte is the same as result of keying - a key. Masking sometimes means matting with rotoscoping but can also mean using one element to mask another, and it doesn’t have to originate from roto. For example using a texture to mask other footage. Key usually implies the process of keying: creating a matte with some automatic method.

Matte originates from “(traveling) matte”, which means hand-painted holdout used in multi-exposure photography.

Key, as in “chroma key” originates from a trade name of a photochemical process that allowed creating mattes from analog film.


Cheers thank you. I've seen a few youtube videos with titles like 'tips to pull a fast key', which was so vague, I took it as just fast grading. And i was advised to select a key function and set a key output to zero to deactivate a power window at a certain point in a timeline, so the usage of the word can be a little confusing.