Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/grading

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Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/grading

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 7:03 am

I have read Canon's h265 4:2:2 is even harder than h265 4:2:0... but there are people still complaining with modern processors:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/ ... 265_video/



In doubt what's the best?

A Hexa-core i7-9750H or Xeon E-2276M with the Quadro RTX 5000 16GB VRAM?

Or Octa-core i7-10875H with a RTX 2080 Max-Q 8GB VRAM?

Or yet the Octa-Core Ryzen 7 3700X but with the RTX 2070 8GB VRAM?



https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/I ... vsm1111393

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So, is it more crucial an Octa-core CPU or a 16GB VRAM GPU?
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 12:53 pm

h.265 422 always has to be decoded by the CPU (h.265 420 can be hardware decoded by the GPU).
When you want to edit this smoothly(real-time), transcode it to Cineform or DNx, h265 422 is a pain in the butt with 4k, 8k is almost impossible to decode in realtime.
https://blog.frame.io/2017/02/13/compare-50-intermediate-codecs/
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 2:17 pm

My preference would be for a 10th Gen Intel CPU and RTX 3000 series GPU in a desktop, using Optimized Media (Cineform at 1/4 resolution).
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 3:05 pm

Jim Simon wrote:My preference would be for a 10th Gen Intel CPU and RTX 3000 series GPU in a desktop, using Optimized Media (Cineform at 1/4 resolution).
Can you point me out the best example on budget?
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 4:00 pm

what i can say, is that if you also want to export the edit in anything above 4k timeline and export above 4k resolution you need more then 8gb of vram.

i had in a desktop a 2080 8gb vram and using 6k export h265 it said many times out of vram and could not export. i put a 11gb 1080ti and the error was gone(i still get the error of out of vram if i put many nodes, or put nr on 3 or more frames, but now i can at least add more then 1 colour nodes, and nr works somewhat, with 8gb i could not use nr it would give me out of vram memory error)
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostMon Dec 28, 2020 4:03 pm

What's your budget and why do you want a laptop and not a desktop?
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 2:35 am

The best option on a budget is definitely not a laptop!

But you may want to wait for what Apple is coming up with after the current low-end M1 laptops.
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 3:58 am

John Griffin wrote:What's your budget and why do you want a laptop and not a desktop?
Preferable up to $2000 but I can spend a bit more, just not interested to throw away my investment and see it for a fraction of the price in a year or so.

Laptop, not desktop, because I cannot put a desktop inside a bag or put it to work during a flight or a train trip for example.
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 4:43 am

OK, then go for the MacBook Pro M1, since it doesn't throttle on battery power. Most PC laptops do.
The only exception below 2K is the Razer Book 13 if you need Windows:

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You can spend the money you save on the Studio version (if you go for the PC) or a larger screen when you're at home for the Mac.

P.S. Oh, and 8K? Hmm.
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Re: Best laptop configuration for 4K/6K/8K, h265 editing/gra

PostTue Dec 29, 2020 9:40 am

MAX-Q are reportedly very weak compared to MAX-P laptops - I gather the "P" stands for Performance.

Octa-Core Ryzen 7 3700X but with the RTX 2070 8GB VRAM should be a balanced combination - I use a RTX 2070 with a 12-core 3900x and I see up to 14-16 cores actually utilized at 25-40% max with Neat plugin NR (2.7k mp4 Prores flat footage superscaled to 4k). The 8-core CPU should see 50-60% utilization with the RTX2070.

But I would still second the recommendation for the M1 with its UMA advantages above - if you wanted a laptop.
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