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Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:14 pm
by R R R M
I'd like to share my first impressions of Resolve after working in Avid Media Composer for the past 12 years.

I took the Introduction class offer by BMD a few weeks ago, without a system that could run it. I followed along each day, and in the end, passed the certification test. With this newfound exciting tool, I purchased a studio license and committed to renting a workstation to redo much of the coursework hands on, and to find other tutorials online to try my hand at. I was thinking, "This software, and it's structure is so clever, it could well replace Avid in the next 4 years".

The system I've rented has two SSD drives, is Windows 10 64 bit, AMR Threadripper 3970X 32 Core Processor (64CPUs) at 3.7GHz. 64GB of RAM, combined with an NVidia RTX3080 10GB VRAM GPU. I haven't put together a PC in quite some time, but, I'm told, for current performance, as far as a workstation goes, this is a fairly high end machine....without getting into crazy land that an individual, as opposed to an online facility, can afford to buy. I think this one, with the HP 4k HDR monitor is around US$7000.00

Since I work in editorial, I figured Fusion, in particular, could greatly assist in many of the temporary composites I'm often required to do, and at a much more refined level. I was (and can say I still am) greatly excited to have a more sophisticated node based workflow instead of Avid..and I am certainly challenged by this new method of constructing (in my case, temporary) visual effects. But...here's where I feel it's falling off the rails.

I downloaded the free intro class from Bernd Klimm (VFXStudy.com) and went through it. My system CHOKED. So, I've tried changing numerous settings, as Bernd so appropriately discusses this issue in the course, but NONE of them would allow me to preview in real time after allowing resolve (in the edit page or in the fusion page) to play through the timeline and cache. I was lucky to get 8 fps, but usually it was less than 2fps. And that's in HD, not 4k or 8k.

In Bernd's exercises we are mostly working with 2d images, not motion pictures. So, please, comrades, can you help me out? I must be doing something wrong. His exercises DO involve some 3d work, as well as 2d filters, and particles... but again, these are just scratching the surface of what (I expect) we ought to be able to do in Resolve.

What can I do to get Resolve to playback smoothly after allowing it to cache? For reference, in Avid, I would simply render the effect, WAIT for the temp render media to be created, then see it in real time. Is there something I am missing in Resolve OR....

Are my expectations of Resolve performance too high, and I would need a $20k-50k workstation?

At this stage, my excitement from my intro course has turned into disappointment both in the software, but perhaps also in myself for not being able to make the right adjustments to get Resolve to perform well.

I truly would LOVE to be able to be mildly competent in Resolve as I am in Photoshop and After Effects. Mildly, NOT a master. Just a user who can work their way around simple problems I've been given in editorial.

Help.

Respectfully,

Ryan

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:29 pm
by Ellory Yu
Hi Ryan, My system is less performant than the spec of the computer you rented and I have done the tutorials as well with no performance issues at all. I also edit and grade full length features up to 4K timeline without the bottlenecks - although there are times where the nodes are complex with effects and NRs that I get some slower playback - around 16-18fps, but not 2 or 4fps. So there is something going wrongly for you. I don't know if anyone here will be able to help but I hope someone do and I would like to see what you folks found it to be. I guess don't get discourage amidst frustration of not knowing why it is not working to your expectations.

And by the way, that spec of a computer you have there, you can easily build one similar in specs for $2500-$3000 (max). Go to PCPartPicker.com and spec one out if you like to see what the cost is.

Looking forward to reading what the resolution is... and I hope it is not the 3080 as I am anticipating of replacing my 2 older AMD GPU cards with one 3080. ;)

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:14 am
by R R R M
Ellory,

Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply and data point! Hopefully someone can point me the right direction.

I'd love to build a system and have a colleague that has great expertise at that. Right now, it seems though, that there are CPU and GPPU shortages, so he advised me to "hold" until we can more readily get the parts.

Note - I think this HP Z32x 4k monitor I have rented went for about $1300. What a great monitor. I'd love some input from others regarding a truly GREAT monitor. I don't trust Amazon reviews anymore. Is the BenQ truly a good monitor? Who knows.

Thanks again to you and anyone else who can help me solve this.

Ryan

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:27 am
by Ellory Yu
R R R M wrote:Note - I think this HP Z32x 4k monitor I have rented went for about $1300. What a great monitor. I'd love some input from others regarding a truly GREAT monitor. I don't trust Amazon reviews anymore. Is the BenQ truly a good monitor? Who knows.

Ryan


There are good suggestions for monitor in this topic discussion. You might want to check it out.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=130075

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:25 am
by Jack Fairley
Something is wrong with your system, that's close to ideal. It should be chewing through 4K with ease.

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:38 am
by SkierEvans
I agree there must be something wrong. My system is only 12 core is two generations older and with a 1080Ti and I can do multicam with two tracks of UHD 60P V Log from my GH5's. Is the 3080 set up correctly?

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:44 pm
by Ellory Yu
SkierEvans wrote:Is the 3080 set up correctly?

That's my concern too, an incorrect set up of the 3080 or there's a problem with the card itself. I'm hoping it is not the latter because as I said, I'm considering replacing my dual AMD 390X GPU cards with a single 3080ti when it comes out in the next couple of months. I've had the AMD gpu for years and lately I'm getting some coil whine noises so it might be on its way out.

Because of the scarcity of these cards, it's hard press to find working reviews of Resolve on them right now,

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:24 pm
by Jack Fairley
You will not be disappointed. The 3090 is blisteringly fast.

Re: Resolve Performance Expectations - Review - seeking help

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:40 pm
by Ellory Yu
Jack Fairley wrote:You will not be disappointed. The 3090 is blisteringly fast.

That's my assumption too and that the 3080ti will be a good enough replacement. :)