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3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:11 pm
by Mariano215
I'm applying the 3D Keyer on the color page.

On some clips it works. On other clips, even from the same source, it does not work.

Nothing happens when selecting the green screen.
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When Despill is selected, the green screen goes gray.
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No alpha channel is created.

Any help? I've tried everything.

Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:39 pm
by xunile
You have to add an Alpha Output to the Node Editor.

Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:18 pm
by Mariano215
I've tried that as well. As you can see from this screenshot where it is working - there is no need for the Alpha Output - and it works. I believe it is supposed to function this way.

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Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:19 pm
by Mariano215
Scratch that - I just added it and tied the 3D Keyer node directly to the alpha output and it worked!

I still think this is a bug.

Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:57 pm
by wfolta
Mariano215 wrote:I still think this is a bug.

Working without outputting to the alpha channel would be a bug, not the other way around. If you don't explicitly output an alpha channel you should not magically get one.

Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:43 am
by Marc Wielage
wfolta wrote:Working without outputting to the alpha channel would be a bug, not the other way around. If you don't explicitly output an alpha channel you should not magically get one.

Wayne is 100% right. For info on chroma keying, read the section "Introduction to Compositing Using the Alpha Output" in the Resolve 16.2 manual, starting on p. 2886. This has not changed for 17 as far as I know.

It is true that in 17, you can now do a simple chromakey on the Edit page, with slightly different steps involved. I would rather do it on the color page, because I frequently need to create a tracking garbage matte with Power Windows in order to tame the key and get everything optimized and looking reasonable.

Re: 3D Keyer not working

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:22 pm
by wfolta
I was shocked the first time I saw a training video where someone pulled a key in Color. I've always associated keying with an editor or a VFX program. But it makes total sense to do it in Color: you have a slew of color-selection tools and adjustments, fast and reliable mask tracking, etc. So I'm a convert.