DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

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DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostSat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 am

I am trying to understand color space in DR17 using BMPCC 6k shot with BRAW FIlm. The default in Project Settings > Color Management > Color Science is DaVinci Resolve YRGB and Timeline color space is Rec.709(Scene)

I have set the Project Settings > Camera Raw as below

RAW profile - Blackmagic RAW
Decode using - Project
Color science - Gen 5

However, in Color Management, there is another option, DaVinci YRGB Color Managed, that will have a separate Output color space option.

So here I want to know which color management I should set and output settings for three types of screen. 1. Film (cinema) 2. Broadcast 3. YouTube/Vimeo/Computer/TV
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostSat Jan 16, 2021 1:44 pm

The difference between "DaVinci Resolve YRGB" and "DaVinci YRGB color managed" is that the former doesn't do anything to color manage your footage, and leaves the work to you. When you're new to Resolve, and especially if you're only using one camera, the default settings are a great place to start learning.

For broadcast and web delivery, the default scene rec.709 setting is fine, it's how most users will be viewing your content, and there's a good chance that it's the best quality at which *you* can view your content, unless you've invested in a wide gamut/HDR display, and a pcie or thunderbolt monitoring interface such as the ultrastudio series from BMD.

For film, you actually need to be in a grading studio with projected light. The standards for those setups have different color primaries than your computer monitor, so using them at home will make the color look strange and incorrect.

Where the allure of color managed workflows comes in is whenever you're dealing with multiple types of professional cameras. Cameras like ones from BMD, ARRI, RED, are manufactured, calibrated, and documented to known specifications. Sony, Canon, Panasonic, and others might have both pro and pro-sumer cameras. If all of your footage comes from cameras that shoot known specs (theoretically,) you should be able to import them all into a color-managed project and have them look and behave as if they're the same kind of camera, right from the start. In practice, the physical limitations and differences between cameras (not to mention lenses, filters, recording codecs, lighting conditions, color sciences, etc) often make this trickier than it sounds. Resolve 17 has gotten way better at it, though, and its new colorspace aware tools make color managed workflows even more attractive.

A good deal of a professional colorist's job description is understanding all of the technicalities of color management. The best place to start *learning* about it is with Resolve's default settings. That way, it's not changing anything without your awareness. You might also want to start out recording ProRes before moving on to BRAW, because that'll give you solid footing, so to speak, where a pixel is a pixel, and all of the color values are hard-coded. Start by understanding LOG gammas, and LUTs, try matching shots between different camera settings (maybe within your own camera, like BMD film color profile vs extended video profile), then try to match different cameras, then shoot RAW, scale up, go for HDR, P3, etc, etc. Another big part of a colorist's job is test, test, test.

READ THE MANUAL. I can't stress that enough. It's a tome, but it's very informative.

Oh, and a small note, I don't think BMD has updated the firmware of the Pocket 4 or 6 K to 5th gen color science yet. The URSAs support it, but I don't think the Pockets do yet. At least, I haven't seen mention of it in the release notes, and I watch those like a hawk. Until somebody tells me differently, I'm sticking to Gen 4.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostSat Jan 16, 2021 3:29 pm

"To help keep the v17 beta items separate from the regular forum topics, please use v17 beta sub forum for all your reports on v17 beta items.

Also, for operational questions, please refer to the New Features Guide that is in the installer before posting here."

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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostMon Jan 18, 2021 2:02 am

If the manual is too overwhelming for you, get the new tutorial by Rippletraining. Alexis van Hurkman, the author of the manual, is explaining the new RCM very well by video.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostMon Jan 18, 2021 6:52 am

Jason Conrad wrote:The difference between "DaVinci Resolve YRGB" and "DaVinci YRGB color managed" is that the former doesn't do anything to color manage your footage, and leaves the work to you. When you're new to Resolve, and especially if you're only using one camera, the default settings are a great place to start learning.


Amazing info. It will help me a lot. Thank you so much! :)
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostMon Jan 18, 2021 6:54 am

Jim Simon wrote:"To help keep the v17 beta items separate from the regular forum topics, please use v17 beta sub forum for all your reports on v17 beta items.

Also, for operational questions, please refer to the New Features Guide that is in the installer before posting here."

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I am sorry, I will consider what you said.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostMon Jan 18, 2021 6:54 am

Uli Plank wrote:If the manual is too overwhelming for you, get the new tutorial by Rippletraining. Alexis van Hurkman, the author of the manual, is explaining the new RCM very well by video.

That's a great idea. Thank you!
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostWed Jan 20, 2021 9:26 am

Uli Plank wrote:If the manual is too overwhelming for you, get the new tutorial by Rippletraining. Alexis van Hurkman, the author of the manual, is explaining the new RCM very well by video.


I can't read the manual without hearing Alexis van Hurkman's voice in my head :D
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Re: DaVinci Resolve 17 and BMPCC 6K BRAW Film Color Space

PostWed Jan 20, 2021 9:34 am

Did you follow his "Happy Hour" series on YT?
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