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This is a PITA, because it persists between quitting and relaunching.

If you maximize Resolve, it goes full-screen and there's no way out. If you roll to the top of the screen, the frame and window controls don't appear; to seal the deal, BMD has removed the Window menu.

Now what?

I don't see that problem here. If you maximised the UI, just go for Reset UI Layout or press CTRL+U and it switches back.

Menu Workspace -> Full Screen Window


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Thanks, but as I mentioned the Window menu has been removed.

Uli Plank wrote:I don't see that problem here. If you maximised the UI, just go for Reset UI Layout or press CTRL+U and it switches back.

So when you roll to the top of the screen, the window frame with the red/yellow/green dots appears? Because that's the correct and expected behavior when an application is maximized on the Mac. The other way to get out of full-screen is to hit the Escape key. That doesn't work here, either.

"Reset UI', even if a user hunts it down, can't be assumed to take you out of full-screen mode; typically that means "undo customizations and return to the default layout."

Thus this is a UI defect.

Palmer, the menu "Workspace > Full Screen Window" allows you to toggle full screen both ways.

edit: address typos from phone.

Workspace --> Full Screen Window

Thanks for the replies.

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Palmer, the menu "Workflow > Show Full Screen" allows you to toggle full screen both ways.

I'm sure you meant "Workspace." Two problems. First, the hotkey for getting out of full-screen mode on this platform is Escape. The other standard way is to use the Window menu. And finally yet another standard way is to roll the cursor to the top of the screen. Resolve ignores (or deletes) all of those. Also, there's no hotkey for this proprietary option that's buried in the Workspace menu.

There are OS-wide standards for window management, so why not use them?

PalmerWoodrow wrote:

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Palmer, the menu "Workflow > Show Full Screen" allows you to toggle full screen both ways.

I'm sure you meant "Workspace." Two problems. First, the hotkey for getting out of full-screen mode on this platform is Escape. The other standard way is to use the Window menu. Resolve ignores (or deletes) both of those. Also, there's no hotkey for this proprietary option that's buried in the Workspace menu.

There are OS-wide standards for window management, so why not use them?

You can customize shortcut key in Keyboard Customization

Thanks, but users should not be running around an application's keyboard mapper to re-implement platform-standard hotkeys, to work around a UI that deliberately suppresses standard behaviors that every other application honors.

Well, I know quite a few very useful applications that don't honour all Apple 'laws' either.
Anyway, there are many more important things to fix in Resolve.

A lot of Apple's UI conventions are piss-poor UI. But we're talking about basic, platform-wide window management here, the suppression of which hobbles the product. Your strawman about other products does nothing to change that fact. The vast, vast majority of products DOES adhere to these particular fundamental conventions.

Resolve runs on Mac, Windows and Linux, and it builds its UI on top of QT (That's "cutie" not QuickTime. https://www.qt.io]) in order to achieve the cross-platform compatibility. The BMD developers try to accommodate each OS as best as possible, but they also need to keep the experience consistent across platforms. Sometimes, faults appear where very OS-specific features meet the application layer. Things like MacOS' scrolling with inertia, which don't have exact counterparts in Windows or Linux cause small differences in the way the Mac Resolve UI behaves. Same goes for FullScreen, spaces, airplay, colorsync, etc. No sense in getting upset about it. All things being equal, you see a lot less OS-specific problems from Mac users on these forums than Windows users, and most Windows-specific issues tend to be GPU-related. The Linux users who stay inside the lines seem to be pretty quiet, but the ones trying to run on unsupported distros seem positively masochistic.