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Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:29 pm
by ishootyou.com
I have a music background with quite a lot of experience when it comes to music production and mixing. I wonder if there are others here with a similar background because I would really be interested in their opinion regarding the capability of Fairlight compared to a DAW like Logic Pro. Until recently I worked with FCPX but given the fact that I own several BM cameras I always wanted to switch over, not only for the sake of BRAW. When I worked in FCPX it was a no brainer to use Logic Pro for audio. With switching to Resolve I thought I'd give Fairlight a try but I always end up using my old Logic Pro workflow.
In a simple talking head video, the talent coughs. I want to select this short part of the audio track and lower the volume by X dB. In Logic I can make a selection by click-dragging over the desired part and simply pull down the volume for that part. How on earth can I do this in Resolve?
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:24 pm
by jamedia
ishootyou.com wrote: In a simple talking head video, the talent coughs. I want to select this short part of the audio track and lower the volume by X dB. In Logic I can make a selection by click-dragging over the desired part and simply pull down the volume for that part. How on earth can I do this in Resolve?
You can do it in exactly the same way as in FCPX key points with Alt Rt mouse and drag the line down.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:58 pm
by ishootyou.com
jamedia wrote:ishootyou.com wrote: In a simple talking head video, the talent coughs. I want to select this short part of the audio track and lower the volume by X dB. In Logic I can make a selection by click-dragging over the desired part and simply pull down the volume for that part. How on earth can I do this in Resolve?
You can do it in exactly the same way as in FCPX key points with Alt Rt mouse and drag the line down.
Thank you, however that's not how I want it. I want to drag-select a part of the waveform and then pull that down without having to create multiple points first. This is to correct very short signal peaks and without volume transitioning from one level to the other and back.
I'm back to editing the entire sound in Logic and re-importing it to Resolve. I know it's me but I just can't understand that Fairlight is such a big thing

Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:58 pm
by lost_soul
17 to the rescue. For some reason it doesn't repect the time marker in the URL so jump to 1:43.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:50 pm
by Tom Early
lost_soul wrote:17 to the rescue. For some reason it doesn't repect the time marker in the URL so jump to 1:43.
The edit selection tool doesn't seem to be able to do what the OP wants
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:57 pm
by Jim Simon
ishootyou.com wrote:I want to drag-select a part of the waveform and then pull that down without having to create multiple points first.
It's a good idea.
viewforum.php?f=33
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:29 pm
by VioletWolf
Another cool way to get rid of coughs, ums, awkward pauses etc. is to cut the offending bit out completely and then cover the edit by doing a punch-in (closer view) on the video track by scaling it up a touch for a few sentences or until the next blooper, then scale back out. (Or you can just cut to a different camera angle if you have one). But I thought the one camera punch-in was great trick to hide edits when it was shown to me.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:41 pm
by Michael Gissing
I haven't tried it yet but doesn't transient detection divide a clip up so that sections can easily have gain or EQ changes applied without making a whole lot of keyframes?
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:17 pm
by ishootyou.com
VioletWolf wrote:Another cool way to get rid of coughs, ums, awkward pauses etc. is to cut the offending bit out completely and then cover the edit by doing a punch-in (closer view) on the video track by scaling it up a touch for a few sentences or until the next blooper, then scale back out. (Or you can just cut to a different camera angle if you have one). But I thought the one camera punch-in was great trick to hide edits when it was shown to me.
Thank you but that is a totally different thing. I don't want to chop the tracks to pieces but really only select very short portions of an audio track and pull those down. I am getting WAY better audio by editing the tracks in Logic and re-importing them into Resolve, so that will be the way to go.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:18 pm
by ishootyou.com
Michael Gissing wrote:I haven't tried it yet but doesn't transient detection divide a clip up so that sections can easily have gain or EQ changes applied without making a whole lot of keyframes?
Not helpful I'm afraid. I need to be able to precisely define a very short portion of an audio track and lower the volume.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:03 pm
by Kenzo
ishootyou.com wrote:I want to select this short part of the audio track and lower the volume by X dB. In Logic I can make a selection by click-dragging over the desired part and simply pull down the volume for that part. How on earth can I do this in Resolve?
You can do it this way: (although the clip will be cut)
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:11 am
by IsraEliteMedia
Jim Simon wrote:ishootyou.com wrote:I want to drag-select a part of the waveform and then pull that down without having to create multiple points first.
It's a good idea.
viewforum.php?f=33
Yeah I miss this feature very much. Vegas works exactly as you describe, select a region and pull down, bingo. It creates 4 audio keyframes automatically.
Erik
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:13 am
by IsraEliteMedia
Kenzo wrote:ishootyou.com wrote:I want to select this short part of the audio track and lower the volume by X dB. In Logic I can make a selection by click-dragging over the desired part and simply pull down the volume for that part. How on earth can I do this in Resolve?
You can do it this way: (although the clip will be cut)
Nice try to find a solution but you are left with hard cuts in the audio levels as you mentioned. Software that creates 4 audio keyframes automatically makes it super easy to feather the audio level change.
Erik
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:57 pm
by Phil999
in Cubase, Harrison Mixbus 32c, and in Fairlight, I usually ride the channel fader to lower the volume of parts of a recording. And like in a DAW, one can edit the automation curve in Fairlight afterwards for the perfect flow.
Besides, this is another reason to have a graphic tablet. To edit automation curves. But not a necessity. Works fine with a mouse as well.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:53 pm
by Charles Bennett
Holding down the Alt key, click four times along the volume line to add keyframes. You can now just pull down the centre section. This works in both the Edit and Fairlight pages.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

Posted:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:13 pm
by ishootyou.com
Charles Bennett wrote:Holding down the Alt key, click four times along the volume line to add keyframes. You can now just pull down the centre section. This works in both the Edit and Fairlight pages.
No. I am talking about VERY short bits of a waveform, like a single crackle of static/digital noise and so on. I really appreciate the many attempts to help but unfortunately there's nothing I could work with.
Re: Audio editing: don't get it.

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Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:22 pm
by Jim Simon
In Fairlight you can Zoom into the sample level and adjust those. Might be worth a shot.