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No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:08 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
Hello,
at the end of this request you will find a .mts video file + screenshot which has no sound in Resolve 17.1.1.
When this file is played in Windows the sound is there.
Additionally you will find a link to a screenshot of the file in Resolve 17.1.1.
Please have a look at the file and help me to fix the error.
The file is taken from a Panasonic HDC-HS700
(HD camcorder).
Videos from a Gopro Hero 7 Black have no problem with the sound in Resolve 17.1.1.

LINK to Video: https://gofile.me/6FtGT/zMd8oIL51
Link to Screenshot: https://gofile.me/6FtGT/ffanVT4qS
Greetings Daniel

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:07 am
by Uli Plank
Im writing this on a cellphone after having been hit by a tornado.
So, no fast internet to download and check. But I’d definitely change your title to English, since others may be passing your post, assuming it’s all in German.
There is a German forum, BTW, with some very helpful folks.

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:09 am
by Shrinivas Ramani
Daniel

Please take a look at these FAQs on what information to provide when reporting an issue.

You mention "in Windows" - which makes me think your "no sound" system runs Linux. MTS files are commonly recorded with an AAC audio encoding which is not supported in DaVinci Resolve on CentOS. If it is another audio codec, please take a look at the supported audio codecs under CentOS to check if that is natively supported in Linux. You may have to transcode/extract the audio separately to a supported format to continue.

Regards
Shrinivas

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:59 pm
by Gary Hango
Your clip with the boats played normally with all 6 audio channels playing sound in my Resolve v17.1.1

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:12 pm
by Jim Simon
Uli Plank wrote: hit by a tornado.
:o

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:40 pm
by Jim Simon
The clip plays fine for me as well in Studio 17.1.1 for Windows.

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:31 am
by Daniel-Hannover
Here is the screenshot

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:23 pm
by Shrinivas Ramani
At the top left of your timeline, can you click timeline view options and check if waveforms are enabled?

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:28 am
by Daniel-Hannover
Hello, yes the waveform is enabled.
see screenshot

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:34 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
UPDATE:
Hello, I have now reinstalled Windows Pro 10 + all updates.
Davinci Resolve Studio 17.1.1 reinstalled.
No change.

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:20 am
by Peter Chamberlain
Please post ur nfo and logs as per detail in the FAQs

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:47 pm
by Gary Hango
Go into Resolves preferences and manually select your audio output device.

Re: Kein Ton bei .mts datei

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:56 pm
by Shrinivas Ramani
Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Daniel

Please take a look at these FAQs on what information to provide when reporting an issue.

You mention "in Windows" - which makes me think your "no sound" system runs Linux. MTS files are commonly recorded with an AAC audio encoding which is not supported in DaVinci Resolve on CentOS. If it is another audio codec, please take a look at the supported audio codecs under CentOS to check if that is natively supported in Linux. You may have to transcode/extract the audio separately to a supported format to continue.

Regards
Shrinivas
Hi Daniel
Can you let us know what your hardware and OS is? Did you check the codec document?

Regards
Shrinivas

No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:01 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
The problem is found.
I have reproduced it 2x.
It is a "Quality update KB5000842 of Windows 10 Pro. from March 2021 (see screenshot).
@Blackmagic
Please check this on your end, and give us feedback.

With kind regards
Daniel Schoenemann

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:52 pm
by Jim Simon
I don't have that update. A 'fix' for 7.1 audio is listed as part of it. Related maybe?

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:03 pm
by Gary Hango
With Windows updates, it’s more like, “The fix is in!”.

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:36 am
by Retnom
I'm having the same issue, .mts files that previously worked are no longer being imported with waveforms (I checked in the media tab) i dont get it, what is the problem? :o

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:07 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
@Retnom,

it's clearly the update.
It reinstalled itself yesterday (no sound anymore) then I uninstalled it again.
After that, the sound was back.
@Shrinivas Ramani,

please check this more carefully.
Not that in a few months many of the users have the problem.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:46 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
Again:
right after my post from today, wondows reinstalls the same uptata automatically....
Here is the video: https://gofile.me/6FtGT/CoqH1Qoa1
It also affects the update KB 5001330 + KB5000842).
I'll uninstall it manually again and get back to you.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:59 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
After uninstalling the update:
https://gofile.me/6FtGT/MOl3reGeZ
With this the error is found.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:50 pm
by Retnom
@Daniel-Hannover
Thank you! Indeed, uninstalling the KB 5001330 update got me back the audio for .mts
I wonder why this is happening

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:40 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
@ Shrinivas Ramani

now already 2 customers have the same problem.
Please check it out / download it yourself and check it out.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:18 am
by Daniel-Hannover
even with the latest version of DR (installed today) the problem persists.
You can set an update lock for Windos 10 but that can't be the solution.
Has anyone already found a final solution ?

With kind regards
Daniel Schoenemann

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 11:31 am
by Daniel-Hannover
Hello ?
Is there anyone else here ?
I can't block the update process in Windows 10 for KB 5001330 update unfortunately.
I have to block the update process permanently.
Is there a solution in the meantime ?
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 5:30 pm
by Meridian13
I am having the same problem. I hoped for optional updates in Win10 to fix the problem. No success! I had to uninstall each of them including KB5001330. After uninstalling KB5001330 everthing works fine again.
I figured out, that other programms like Magix had similiar problems before, also resulting from a Win10 update. It seems, that they were solving that by installing an AC3-Codec. Is there an option for Davinci Resolve as well? (I won't change to Magix!!!)
I am using DR 16.2.7. Will an update to DR 17 be helpful?

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:52 am
by Daniel-Hannover
@Meridian13
unfortunately upgrading to version 17 (I have 17.1.1) is not the solution.
Here Davinci is asked to remedy the situation.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 10:40 am
by Dieter Scheel
Daniel-Hannover wrote:Here Davinci is asked to remedy the situation.
Why should BMD solve a problem that Microsoft brought in?

Maybe it is time to go the Linux way (if possible for you at all). I did this a few years ago and never regretted it. No forced and broken udates anymore. Resolve Studio (and Fusion Studio) work almost perfectly.

Just saying ... :)

Don't get me wrong - there is no sound in your video here either. Which is AC3 6-channel. But thats because I always use PCM sound with my videos - I transcode any audio to PCM before I even use Resolve. So I never tested or tried to import AC3. Maybe BMD could shed a light on it.

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:26 am
by Daniel-Hannover
I have now sent a log file to support.
Let's see what comes out.
I will get back to you.

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:53 am
by Daniel-Hannover
for all who have the same problem.
Google the Microsoft tool "WUShowHide".
this tool disables certain updates.
this helps as long as the problem still exists.

Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2021 1:15 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
Info from mail support:
The developers are aware of this behaviour with MTS files and the latest Windows updates and the developers are currently investigating this.

Greetings Danel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:03 am
by Shrinivas Ramani
Hi all

Can you try with Resolve 17.2 with the latest Windows update?

Thanks
Shrinivas

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:29 am
by Daniel-Hannover
Hi, I'm downloading it now and will get back to you.
Greetings Daniel

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 12:57 pm
by Meridian13
Daniel-Hannover wrote:Info from mail support:
The developers are aware of this behaviour with MTS files and the latest Windows updates and the developers are currently investigating this.

Greetings Danel


This is good news.
I contacted the Microsoft Support. They suggested to update the audio drivers on my system. I'm going to check out if that would solve the problem, if it could not be fixed by DR 17.2.

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:25 pm
by Retnom
Good news! After updating to the newer Resolve version i have sound again in my .mts
Thank you so much guys

Re: No sound with .mts file

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 2:53 pm
by Daniel-Hannover
With version 17.2 it works again.
Thanks
In the future Blackmagic could be a bit more active with such requests from users.
Greetings Daniel from Hannover Germany