Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

Get answers to your questions about color grading, editing and finishing with DaVinci Resolve.
  • Author
  • Message
Offline
User avatar

Matt White

  • Posts: 306
  • Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:18 am
  • Location: NYC

Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostWed May 05, 2021 10:26 pm

I keep giving Fairlight a chance, and it keeps disappointing.

On a lark, to see if I could save time from going to our separate DAW to check loudness, I used Fairlight to bounce the audio into a track. Sadly, there are artifacts in the bounced track.

I attached a sample. (no wav files allowed here, so its mp3)
Attachments
Pavane bounce_01.zip
(41.51 KiB) Downloaded 266 times
Offline

Mark Walmsley

  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: Tue May 19, 2020 11:36 pm
  • Location: Coolum Beach, Australia
  • Real Name: Mark Walmsley

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostWed May 05, 2021 10:48 pm

Out of curiosity, did you have any vst or audio plugs in your project?

Also, do you have busy dropbox activity?

I've had some artefacts with bounces in both scenarios
Mac OS 10.14.6
Resolve 17.2
Cheese grater 96 gig ram
Radeon RX580 8 GB
sound editor/mixer/composer
Offline
User avatar

Matt White

  • Posts: 306
  • Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:18 am
  • Location: NYC

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostThu May 06, 2021 12:02 am

No plugins, no effects, no work in Fairlight at all. Just four audio tracks. No dropbox installed on the system.
Offline

Andy Evans

  • Posts: 110
  • Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:14 am
  • Real Name: Andrew Evans

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostThu May 06, 2021 12:19 am

Hi Matt, that sounds like the sort of glitch I'd associate with an audio buffer for the interface being too small. Are you still using the Claret (I think it was?). If you click on the settings prog for your interface there should be an option for setting buffer size..see what it's set to. Windows audio drivers get glitchy with low settings (you can run them lower with ASIO drivers without a problem), if it's not set to 512 samples, try it at that amount and see..
Sound Designer/Mixer
Melbourne Australia
www.mud.net.au
Offline
User avatar

Matt White

  • Posts: 306
  • Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:18 am
  • Location: NYC

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostThu May 06, 2021 12:20 am

We returned the Claret and went back to using the Apogee Symphony Desktop. I will take a look at the buffer size...

For what its worth, we use this same pc for scoring in Cubase and have loads of tracks (40?) with vst instruments, voiceovers, sfx, LOTS of plugins... and have never heard this kind of artifact from it.

Where this artifact occurred, there is a single stereo clip (the music). No fx, no plugins, nothing else happening with audio. There is a single title in the video track. Seems to me our system is robust enough to handle that.
Last edited by Matt White on Thu May 06, 2021 10:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
Offline

Jason Conrad

  • Posts: 797
  • Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:23 pm

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostThu May 06, 2021 1:21 am

I've had fairlight artifacts occur in audio bounces that disappeared when I deleted the Fusion clip which happened to exist on that part of the timeline. So it seems that the video pipeline affects the audio one, even if you're only bouncing audio. This could be an effect limited to Fusion though, and I am on a very different system, but I'd try duplicating the timeline and deleting everything on the video tracks and see if the artifacts go away.
-MacBook Pro (14,3) i7 2.9 GHz 16 GB, Intel 630, AMD 560 x1
-[DR 17.0 Beta9]
Offline
User avatar

Matt White

  • Posts: 306
  • Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:18 am
  • Location: NYC

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostThu May 06, 2021 1:33 am

The quickest solution for me is just to stop trying to use Fairlight. :?
Offline

asyrowiec

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Thu May 18, 2023 4:44 pm
  • Real Name: Arkadiusz Syrowiec

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostMon Oct 23, 2023 8:36 am

Same problem over two years later. Version 18.1.4 BUILD 9. I'm using MBP 2021 with M1 and no additional sound interface.

I've got a fresh project, only a few raw video clips + 2 mono audio clips, which sound good before bouncing. I wanted to bounce them to a stereo clip. The bounced clip has glitches, and as Andy Evans mentioned, it sounds like a low audio buffer glitch (experienced in Ableton many times).

Has anyone found a solution/workaround?
Offline

Shrinivas Ramani

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 2714
  • Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:19 am

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostMon Oct 23, 2023 9:19 am

Hi Arkadiusz

Could you make available a link to a project export (DRP file), the original media and the bounced media?

Thanks
Shrinivas
Offline

asyrowiec

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Thu May 18, 2023 4:44 pm
  • Real Name: Arkadiusz Syrowiec

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 8:01 am

Shrinivas, thank you for your reply and will for helping.

Here are the files you've requested.

G-Drive Bounce Issue Files
Offline

Shrinivas Ramani

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 2714
  • Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:19 am

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostWed Oct 25, 2023 6:00 am

Hi Arkadiusz

Can you try installing Resolve 18.6.2 to check if you still see these issues? Can you also give us an idea of your storage setup - number of local disks and network disks, location of the media, any custom paths for proxies, cache folders etc.

Thanks
Shrinivas
Offline

asyrowiec

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Thu May 18, 2023 4:44 pm
  • Real Name: Arkadiusz Syrowiec

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostWed Oct 25, 2023 8:43 am

Thank you for your help Shrinivas!
I've Installed 18.6.2, and the problem seems to be gone.

Additional info you've asked for:
- Footage: /Volumes/LC_Video_SSD/Projects/
Code: Select all
LC_Video_SSD (SANDISK Portable SSD 2TB SDSSDE30-2T00-G25):

  Free:   550,11 GB (550 114 848 768 bytes)
  Capacity:   2 TB (2 000 397 774 848 bytes)
  Mount Point:   /Volumes/LC_Video_SSD
  File System:   APFS
  Writable:   Yes
  Ignore Ownership:   Yes
  BSD Name:   disk5s1
  Volume UUID:   E5EB7655-B320-47FB-99B6-9798BDE5298C
  Physical Drive:
  Device Name:   Portable SSD
  Media Name:   AppleAPFSMedia
  Medium Type:   SSD
  Protocol:   USB
  Internal:   No
  Partition Map Type:   Unknown


- Cache (/Users/…/Desktop/Projects/Resolve CacheClip/CacheClip)
- Proxy (/Users/…/Desktop/Projects/ProxyMedia)

Code: Select all
Macintosh HD - Data (APPLE SSD AP1024R):

  Free:   22,16 GB (22 159 859 712 bytes)
  Capacity:   994,66 GB (994 662 584 320 bytes)
  Mount Point:   /System/Volumes/Data
  File System:   APFS
  Writable:   Yes
  Ignore Ownership:   No
  BSD Name:   disk3s5
  Volume UUID:   39D7BA6E-D927-4880-A46F-5FCE5D6DEAB0
  Physical Drive:
  Device Name:   APPLE SSD AP1024R
  Media Name:   AppleAPFSMedia
  Medium Type:   SSD
  Protocol:   Apple Fabric
  Internal:   Yes
  Partition Map Type:   Unknown
  SMART Status:   Verified
Offline
User avatar

Ugo Laurenti

  • Posts: 72
  • Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:37 pm
  • Location: Italy

Re: Fairlight: Bounced Audio Has Artifacts

PostWed Oct 25, 2023 11:47 am

Are you using the System disk, almost full, as the cache disk?
PC Gigabyte z390, i9-9900k 3,6MHz,32Gb, Zotac 1080ti, Decklink MiniMonitor, Eizo CG2420 Windows10Pro, Resolve Studio 18.5.1, Tangent Element Panel Kit, MB Air m1.

Return to DaVinci Resolve

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Johannes Hoffmann, roger.magnusson, Tim.Willis, tyler.bain, Zanshin and 151 guests