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Version: Resolve 17.1 / Windows

Not sure if this is intended behaviour, if so, whats the logic begind it:

I have a two camera Multicam Clip, one fixed tripod wide shot, one handheld close / detail shot. I synced them as a multicam clip, editing away. It occurs quite frequently that i have to make use of the "Stabilisation" for the handheld clips, which i access from the Editing Tab -> Inspector, applying it on the Multicam segment to keep multi angles for future changes of mind. I know i could flatten the clip, but i prefer not to at this point of editing.

The imho illogical thing is, that the Stabilizer stores the tracking data of the current angle for the "Parent" (Multicam) Clip, not for the underlying source clip. So, whenever i change the camera angle, the stabilisation data is suddenly applied to other angles as well.

Stabilisation data is usually specific to a certain camera angle and thus should be stored for that speciic clip, not the parent multicam clip.

Think of Multicam as a picture frame, and the original clip as the picture in that frame.

You can draw with marker on the glass of the frame (Multicam), or take the picture out of the frame and draw directly on the that (original clip).

That view should help you decide which approach is best for any given task.

I don't have a multicam clip in progress to check, and so I could be wrong, but I believe you can right click the multicam clip and select "Edit in timeline". Then select the handheld clip and apply the stabilization. Once finished you can go back to the multicam view.

Jim Simon wrote:Think of Multicam as a picture frame, and the original clip as the picture in that frame.

You can draw with marker on the glass of the frame (Multicam), or take the picture out of the frame and draw directly on the that (original clip).

That view should help you decide which approach is best for any given task.

I see what you mean, it's just that in 99.5% of the cases, applying a stabilization on a multicam clip, the user intent is to stabilize the visible camera angle and not the muliticam clip. In fact i can not even think of a theoretical use case where you actually want to stabilize the "picture frame" (to use your metaphor), if there are any use cases at all. Personally i think the UX of a Software should follow the most probable intent of a user and, if at all, allow very unusual "fringe" applications through less visible UI steps. Definitely the "Fringe use case" should NOT be the default procedure, since thats inefficient for 99.5% of the use cases, who need to take extra steps to achieve what they want.

gtempleman wrote:I don't have a multicam clip in progress to check, and so I could be wrong, but I believe you can right click the multicam clip and select "Edit in timeline". Then select the handheld clip and apply the stabilization. Once finished you can go back to the multicam view.

That is possible, but its not practical: "Open in timeline" opens the ENTIRE multicam clip, not the little snippet which was used in my cut and which i want to stabilize. Actually i dont want to stabilize the entire handheld clip because 1st it is very long, 2nd not all of it is shaky.

When you get the the original clip just use the razor and cut the clip on either end of the shaker part and only stabilize that section. That should fix your issue.

evgenymagata wrote:I can not even think of a theoretical use case where you actually want to stabilize the "picture frame" (to use your metaphor).

I agree.

But the ability to make adjustments to either the frame or the original image is a useful feature. One just needs to understand how things work, and make decisions accordingly.

Make sense?

evgenymagata wrote:"Open in timeline" opens the ENTIRE multicam clip, not the little snippet

This still needs improvement. The following Feature request can help some. Add your vote if you like it.

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