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Is anyone else seeing this bug. I have preserve input sizing checked and color selected in keyframes.

I'm using the classic stabilizer to stabilize jumpy film edits, so only the first few frames are stabilized on each shot. Sometimes, if I copy and paste a single node from one shot to another, the stabilizer info carries over as well. But not in place of current stabilizer. In addition to it, so there both active. But the new info isn't graphically shown in any way. Sometimes it works fine. It makes me scared to copy/paste nodes. I can copy a whole grade fine though.

EDIT: After learning the new copy/paste behaviour (thank you Jim Simon), here is my updated description of the bug.

When copy and pasting a shot's grade with only color selected in the keyframe dropdown, the shot's classic stabilizer info is reset. But the stabilizer icon is still on the shot, and the stabilize window still shows the old info. This persists on closing Resolve and re-opening it.

I would think with color selected in the keyframe section, it shouldn't even reset the stabilizer but leave the stabilization as is. Same as how middle clicking a thumbnail in the timeline works. This bug doesn't happen when using the old copy-paste behavior selected from user preferences.

EDIT 2: Now I've discovered that rippling node changes to selected clips is resetting the stabilization as well. At least this time, the icon and graphic representation of stabilizing keyframes is properly disappearing. And again, only color is selected in the keyframe area, and leave input sizing alone is selected in the stills gallery area, and this is the classic stabilizer. JFC, how hard is it to leave the stabilization alone except when I specifically ask to reset it? Why?

After some more tests, I'm not quite sure what's going on. It's not exactly using the first shot's stabilizer. It's maybe erasing the paste shot's stabilizer or adjusting it in some way I can't figure out. While the graphic depiction remains the same.

This is on a windows 10 Supermicro 7048gr-tr.

So far it looks like the bug doesn't happen if "always perform copy and paste on selected nodes" is selected in user preferences. I can't figure out what this setting is supposed to do other than not cause this bug.

Version 17 added the ability to Copy/Paste an entire grade across clips using the standard shortcuts on the Color page. That messed a lot of people up, so BMD added that setting which controls whether an entire clip is copied (with all nodes), or just the selected node is copied.

So looking at the new copy/paste behaviour, here is my updated description of the bug.

When copy and pasting a shot's grade with only color selected in the keyframe dropdown, the shot's classic stabilizer info is reset. But the stabilizer icon is still on the shot, and the stabilize window still shows the old info. This persists on closing Resolve and re-opening it.

I would think with color selected in the keyframe section, it shouldn't even reset the stabilizer but leave the stabilization as is. Same as how middle clicking a thumbnail in the timeline works. This bug doesn't happen when using the old copy-paste behavior selected from user preferences.

Now I've discovered that rippling node changes to selected clips is resetting the stabilization as well. At least this time, the icon and graphic representation of stabilizing keyframes is properly disappearing. And again, only color is selected in the keyframe area, and leave input sizing alone is selected in the stills gallery area, and this is the classic stabilizer. JFC, how hard is it to leave the stabilization alone except when I specifically ask to reset it? Why?

Bug still there :S was finally done with my edit and started on color grading , was so happy i could copy some grades between the shots to save time, but then noticed all my stabilization was gone... @mods anyone knows how to fix this???

nexux324 wrote:Bug still there :S was finally done with my edit and started on color grading , was so happy i could copy some grades between the shots to save time, but then noticed all my stabilization was gone... @mods anyone knows how to fix this???

If you go to Mark -> Keyframe Timeline Mode and choose COLOR, it will only copy the color decisions and should leave PTZR and stabilization alone. I have seen cases where this is buggy, and sometimes you need to right-click in the Gallery and choose Apply Grades Using -> No Keyframes a few times, and that way you can ensure it's just color, no PTZR, no keyframes.

All this is covered in the manual in Chapter 138, "Grade Management." This is a hugely-important chapter for colorists, and this sort of thing has been part of Resolve for more than 10 years that I know of.

General question here. I use copy/paste for adjusting raw settings in the color page, usually before a grade (although it'll copy paste powergrades too).

But even with changing to "Color" in the "keyframe timeline mode" the stabalization is still overwritten.

-What else does this copy/paste potentially change?
-Other ways to change raw settings in batch?

leafylief wrote:General question here. I use copy/paste for adjusting raw settings in the color page, usually before a grade (although it'll copy paste powergrades too).

But even with changing to "Color" in the "keyframe timeline mode" the stabalization is still overwritten.

-What else does this copy/paste potentially change?
-Other ways to change raw settings in batch?

When using powergrades or stills you can choose which parameters you copy by right clicking on the grade and choosing node graph, which opens a window where you can choose what you want to copy, drag and drop or append.

leafylief wrote:But even with changing to "Color" in the "keyframe timeline mode" the stabalization is still overwritten.

I just tried it, and it's not overwriting for me in 19.1.3, either using center-mouse click or copying over a Gallery grade. That's assuming Keyframe Timeline Mode is in Color and the Galley "Apple Grades Using No Keframes" is selected. Do those two things, and PTZR & stabilization should never copy over.

Where is the "apply grades using no keyframes option?"

And out of those color tickboxes, which one would apply the raw settings? seems to make sense, just the way i grade, to use the copy and paste only for the raw and use apply still for the powergrade, to keep em separate. Unless I want to do something more specific.