Fairlight bus volume envelope

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Umberto Uderzo

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Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostThu Jul 22, 2021 1:50 pm

Any way to set interpolated volume keyframes on audio buses? Only frame by frame automation?
Tried in many ways but I didn't get over this...

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Re: Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostThu Jul 22, 2021 2:01 pm

The Fairlight system's automation is accurate down to the sample level.

Use Glide (Range) automation to smooth the parameter value transition.
Fairlight menu > Automation> Glide Range

The system considers the automation data at beginning of the specified Range, and Glides To the control's value at the end of the Range.
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Re: Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostFri Jul 23, 2021 12:50 pm

Well yes, i know that the Fairlight system is very powerful. But looks like it's designed to work with an hardware mixer (and a sound engineer) rather than a mouse/keyboard combination (and a poor video editor guy).

I mean... it's very difficult and somewhat awkward trying to keep a clean fader curve with the mouse.
I expected more a volume envelope like the edit page. I see that tracks share both automation and the keyframed volume envelope of the edit page, but not buses (i suspect because tracks needed to live in both tabs so they needed to share both mechanics while buses don't?)

Anyway... i need to address this seemingly simple issue: i have several audio tracks which i used to layer several musical stems and produce the final music track. But i need to set the music volume in several parts of the video (not only for ducking on dialogues). So i routed all those tracks on a "Music" bus, with the intention to drive only this bus volume level with a simple volume envelope.

Speaking of ducking, while i could use the send/listen technique for the compressor (i see how to send a track to a bus but not how to use the send in a bus compressor) i was really keen to a "simple" edit tab volume envelope, kindly interpolated from keyframe to keyframe very like audio tracks do. But i'm stuck with this and manually moving the fader control while recording is really exausting.

Maybe it's perfect for a studio environment with proper hardware and knowledge, but in my case is nearly a show stopper. Is there any escamotage to achieve what i'm looking for?

Thanks! Umberto
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Re: Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostFri Jul 23, 2021 1:35 pm

Umberto Uderzo wrote:Maybe it's perfect for a studio environment with proper hardware and knowledge, but in my case is nearly a show stopper. Is there any escamotage to achieve what i'm looking for?

Thanks! Umberto


I just have to first commend you for "escamotage". Never heard that word before. Wonderful. Will use.

Currently I don't really have a better addition to the thread (for now) than to throw out there that a 'cheap' solution is to get a singe-fader controller like the Presonus Faderport. For what you describe it could do the trick assuming it's working well with Fairlight. Should be about $200. Of course at that point I'm sure many would consider other 8-channel controllers, but the benefit of it is that it's cheaper and smaller. Just a thought.
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Re: Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostFri Jul 23, 2021 8:02 pm

I bought a cheap secondhand MK1 Faderport from Ebay just for writing fader automation. Though not all functions work due to the way HUI has been implemented, the fader, pan knob, mute, solo, rec, and the transport controls do work in the Fairlight page. The latest version of the Faderport may be better.
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Re: Fairlight bus volume envelope

PostMon Jul 26, 2021 9:27 am

@Matthias, glad you liked the "escamotage" term :D

Anyway, i'm a bit disappointed because bus fader management doesn't offer the dual mode offered by the Audio Tracks. I understand that Fairlight doesn't work this way, but it's really difficult to get accustomed to such mechanics. Too specialistic. I'm not asking to "change" because this mechanics sure works well for pro guys, but i'd like to see the volume envelope added also to buses, or some way to link an audio track volume envelope to a bus or... whatever

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