Audio effects reset in multicam clips

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Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostSun Jan 23, 2022 8:29 pm

0.Enable stacked timeline

1. Create multicam clip
2. Drag to timeline
3. Right click multicam click and select "open in timeline"
4. go to fairlight page
5. apply fx (eq or comp and possibly others) to audio track inside multicam clip
6. go back to edit page and switch to a different timeline
7. switch back to the multicam timeline

= FX are gone.
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Re: BUG: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Jan 25, 2022 12:06 pm

Anyone?

If this is the intended outcome, and not a bug, then I would suggest greying out the fx in multiclips.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostFri Jan 28, 2022 4:15 pm

Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Mar 15, 2022 1:11 pm

This is still a problem in 17.4.5.

If this is the intended behavior, at least grey-out the audio effects on audio tracks in multicam clips.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Mar 15, 2022 4:04 pm

My own habit and recommendation is to keep audio out of the Multicam. This makes mixing in Fairlight easier.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostFri Mar 18, 2022 11:30 am

Thanks for answering, Simon. Will have to do the same.

Still, this is an annoying bug.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostSun Feb 26, 2023 7:04 pm

Can this be updated please? It makes 0 sense that audio effects get reset in multicam clips.
I know people say to do audio seperately outside of multicam but that is just frustrating to do
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Mar 21, 2023 12:30 pm

Can this get some attention? It is still really anoying that it doesn't work.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Mar 21, 2023 12:38 pm

It is my understanding that a multicam clip contains only what has been selected when it is constructed. So video files are scaled to the project resolution, all audio selected is included etc if something is muted it is excluded etc. For instance if a video track is muted it is excluded. I now do no effects on the multicam clip until I have finished editing. Then flatten and now everything is back to the original clip parameters. That way I can crop into clip, zoom pan around a UHD video clip in 19209x1080 etc on the original resolution and not the scaled version in the multicam clip. I edit my audio first, save a wav file that I then use with the multicam audio muted for the edit. I keep that audio timeline so that I could go back and make another version if I want.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Mar 21, 2023 12:57 pm

SkierEvans wrote:It is my understanding that a multicam clip contains only what has been selected when it is constructed. So video files are scaled to the project resolution, all audio selected is included etc if something is muted it is excluded etc. For instance if a video track is muted it is excluded. I now do no effects on the multicam clip until I have finished editing. Then flatten and now everything is back to the original clip parameters. That way I can crop into clip, zoom pan around a UHD video clip in 19209x1080 etc on the original resolution and not the scaled version in the multicam clip. I edit my audio first, save a wav file that I then use with the multicam audio muted for the edit. I keep that audio timeline so that I could go back and make another version if I want.


Hi Skier, thanks for your comment.

I don't understand the idea behind not making it possible to add effects and EQ etc. to the audio of a clip if you can add effects to the video part of the clip (through the colors page i.e.). Also, if this really is the intended behavior, why not just grey out the settings? Why let people fiddle with parameters of an EQ if they it won't be saved?
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Oct 10, 2023 10:13 am

This is still a thing.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostTue Oct 10, 2023 2:09 pm

Multimam is sort of a Compound Clip.

Yep, issues with such are still a thing.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostSat Oct 14, 2023 12:47 pm

Jim Simon wrote:Multimam is sort of a Compound Clip.

Yep, issues with such are still a thing.


The way it works now is annoyingly illogical. If adjusting a setting in a clip inside a multicam clip won't have any effect, then at least grey it out and don't let people fiddle with it only to discover that it won't do anything. Or, better yet, make the adjusted settings have an effect :)
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostSat Oct 14, 2023 2:23 pm

It's kind of a bug, Anabel. It should work. It just doesn't always.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostSat Oct 14, 2023 2:35 pm

With the latest release colour changes can be transferred when flattened but nothing else. As I mentioned before I now accept a two stage process. Just do the cuts. Flatten and do everything else. But then you still need to have created your audio track(s) separately. I just use a timeline in the project for audio only. That way I can keep going back and edit this any time I want to create a final audio .
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostMon Oct 16, 2023 9:54 am

Jim Simon wrote:It's kind of a bug, Anabel. It should work. It just doesn't always.


Interesting choice to introduce something this half-baked and not fixing it for years.
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Re: Audio effects reset in multicam clips

PostMon Oct 16, 2023 9:56 am

SkierEvans wrote:With the latest release colour changes can be transferred when flattened but nothing else. As I mentioned before I now accept a two stage process. Just do the cuts. Flatten and do everything else. But then you still need to have created your audio track(s) separately. I just use a timeline in the project for audio only. That way I can keep going back and edit this any time I want to create a final audio .


I've been able to do color correction on clips inside multicam clips without any flattening. Never encountered a problem there. I only have audio related issues with multicam clips.

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