R5 8k raw playback problems

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R5 8k raw playback problems

PostTue Jun 28, 2022 9:58 am

Playback of 8k raw is choppy.

I did see a video where someone with an RTX 2070 play back 8k red raw fine but that was on windows. (

I'm running Davinci Resolve Studio 17.4.6 Build 4

The file size is 32gb.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model\ name
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz

$ lspci | grep NV
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GA104GL [RTX A4000] (rev a1)

This is a workstation card. It's like a 3070 TI in terms of rt/tensor cores/cuda cores but with 2x the vram and a slower clock speed.

I have 32jiggawats of ram.

And

$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 931.51 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Disk model: Samsung SSD 960 EVO 1TB

This is a really fast nvme drive that's way faster than a regular ssd. So it wouldn't be that.

$ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="openSUSE Leap"
VERSION="15.4"

$ uname -a
Linux mjolnir 5.14.21-150400.22-default #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed May 11 06:57:18 UTC 2022 (49db222) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostTue Jun 28, 2022 1:30 pm

I did find


Is this fixed in resolve 18?
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostTue Jun 28, 2022 1:32 pm

It can't be fixed by BM, you need the right hardware. See here: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=162987
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostWed Jun 29, 2022 3:39 pm

flughafen wrote:Playback of 8k raw is choppy.

I did see a video where someone with an RTX 2070 play back 8k red raw fine but that was on windows. (

I'm running Davinci Resolve Studio 17.4.6 Build 4



Red raw has GPU hardware acceleration. Canon Raw does not.

You will also see BRAW is faster than Canon raw as Braw is partially debayered in camera to avoid the Red Patent.

Use 1080p, lowbitrate optimized media for timeline edits where you need speed. Switch back to raw files for color grade where you need accuracy.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostWed Jun 29, 2022 5:01 pm

And then, RedRAW from older models is decoding faster in fractional resolutions, being wavelet based.
Canon RAW is not, AFAIK.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostWed Jun 29, 2022 5:12 pm

Is it just not possible or canon has been lazy.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostWed Jun 29, 2022 6:08 pm

Probably the latter, Red has had an SDK for a long time.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 7:05 am

ZRGARDNE wrote:
flughafen wrote:Playback of 8k raw is choppy.

I did see a video where someone with an RTX 2070 play back 8k red raw fine but that was on windows. (

I'm running Davinci Resolve Studio 17.4.6 Build 4



Red raw has GPU hardware acceleration. Canon Raw does not.

You will also see BRAW is faster than Canon raw as Braw is partially debayered in camera to avoid the Red Patent.

Use 1080p, lowbitrate optimized media for timeline edits where you need speed. Switch back to raw files for color grade where you need accuracy.


I'm did do a 4k optimized media, but I'm not editing them, just coloring it. (it took like 6+ hours or so.) I shot in clog3 also. So I turned off the optimized media and am now just trying to color it.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 7:06 am

I'll have to find it but I thought I saw a video of c raw being played on a macbook or something.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 7:40 am



Here. But that was in final cut I guess.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 8:52 am

Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 9:52 am

I know the OP said it's not the drive but it may be overheating causing throttling. The OP doesn't mention any other drives. If the media is on the only drive anything else accessing the drive might cause the slowdown.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 10:05 am

Right. Data rate of Canon RAW in 8 K is not negligible.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 11:57 am

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~ ⌚ 13:55:47
$ sudo smartctl --all /dev/nvme0
....
Warning  Comp. Temp. Threshold:     77 Celsius
Critical Comp. Temp. Threshold:     79 Celsius
....
Temperature:                        66 Celsius

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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 12:19 pm

My nvme drive has like a read / write of 3200MB and 1900MB

Is it possible to convert it to something else like maybe prores raw or something else?

I did find this...
https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-use ... 37601.html

https://github.com/OpenImageIO/oiio
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostThu Jun 30, 2022 3:17 pm

You can’t convert into any RAW, but you can use ProRes, DNxHR or CineForm.
Will be huge in 8K for good quality, though.
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Re: R5 8k raw playback problems

PostFri Jul 01, 2022 7:07 am

This 12 bit 8k raw video is 77gb
The video is just over 4 minutes long.
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-rwxr-xr-x 1 mseidl users  77G Jun 29 10:53  021A0227.CRM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 mseidl users  72G Jun 29 11:06  021A0228.CRM

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