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Video card decision

PostThu Nov 24, 2022 7:29 pm

Good evening.
I am building a new pc with Ryzen 9 7950X processor and I am undecided about Geforce RTX 3090 or RTX 3080 video card, this doubt came to me by seeing the published test on Puget System in which I don't see the huge difference for video editing, maybe I'm wrong?
Thanks for the advice
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Nov 24, 2022 7:46 pm

FWIW, there are two other considerations:
- VRAM: The 3080 is only a 10 or 12GB card. This may not be enough VRAM for 4K or projects with effects.
- AV1: If you think you will need AV1 encoding in the near future you will need to look at the next gen cards (Nvidia 4xxx, Intel, and A770, AMD's new Dec Release cards)
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Nov 24, 2022 7:59 pm

Thank you very much for the advice.
If I have to consider AV1 encoding, it is better to wait for the release of the new Amd cards to compare with Nvidia's 4080 or 4090 series.
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Nov 24, 2022 11:41 pm

The 3080 is good for 4K and even 8K however you can never have too much RAM.
If you can get a 3090 for a good price (ie the difference between the 80 and 90 is not silly) and can afford it then get one.
If not the 3080 is unlikely to disappoint
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Re: Video card decision

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 7:13 am

Thank you.
I will also consider this idea, maybe with the unveiling of the new AMD models, there will be a small price drop on the RTX 3080/90 series (I hope).
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Re: Video card decision

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 3:22 pm

The three things that matter here are:

1. CUDA Cores
2. VRAM
3. Memory bus

Higher numbers are always better.
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Re: Video card decision

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 3:30 pm

Thank you.
I was thinking about an RTX 3090, as for AV1 encoding I don't think to use it, at least in the short term.
Also the 4K HDR movies I prefer to use the longer encoding, via x265 software, so I am preparing a new PC with Ryzen 9 7950X.
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 7:21 am

Good morning
I am waiting for next week, in conjunction with the unveiling of the AMD schende, hoping :roll: that the price of the nVidia will undergo some downward change.
In the meantime, I was considering an RTX 4080 instead of the RTX 3090 from the previous series.
Considering that the new 4080 is equipped with 8 GB less VRam than the 3090 it doesn't really fare badly, at least viewing the comparison test.
Can it be a good choice over the 3090?
Thank you.
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 10:28 am

MIMMO61 wrote:Good morning
I am waiting for next week,.


I know what you mean but be careful that "I am waiting for next week" does not become the epitaph on your tombstone.
There is always something new and better coming out... I make the mistake of nearly buying an IBM PC in 1982 but I heard that there was a 286 version round the corner. I did not make a mistake of buying a 286 because I know they were going to launch the 386..... I am still about to buy a PC. :-) You have to jump on the train at some point.

I have a 3080 TI that I am told is great for 4K and OK for 8K work. Though 99.9% of my work is in 1080p.

I suspect the 3080 will drop in price a lot when the new 4080 comes out.
May be get two 3080s? Resolve Studio does handle multiple GPUs. I have no idea if two 3080s would be better than one 4080 on performance or price (after the price drop) on a price/performance measure.

It would be good to know as it may be worth me picking up a second 3080TI
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 10:53 am

Only way the 3080 is going to drop a lot is if somebody has a truck load to offload. Go look at the price of 2060s.
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Re: Video card decision

PostThu Dec 08, 2022 11:09 am

Nick2021 wrote:Only way the 3080 is going to drop a lot is if somebody has a truck load to offload. Go look at the price of 2060s.

Fair enough. the 3080TI is a good card.

Though they tell me the 3090 is better (you can never have "too much" ram :-) That said the price jump from the 3080 TI to the 3090 makes it VERY expensive ram.

The only point I would make , paraphrased from a friends comment on digital cameras a decade ago, *EVERYTHING* you have ever seen was made with lower spec hardware than this new thing. Will you really notice the difference? There is a very good YT video asking if people could tell the difference between 4K and 1080p. They ran it as part of a course and no one could reliably tell the difference between 1080p and 4K on a modern TV (with up scaling) at the end the dropped in the bombshell that a couple of the clips in the demo video were 720 and no one spitted them.

The Science is interesting and many people are claiming to see things they can't. It is call Information Science and is fascination stuff. People believe the can see a difference when the human body, physiologically, can't

This is of course not the same as processing power for rendering things. As with RAM you always need more power.
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Re: Video card decision

PostFri Dec 09, 2022 12:29 am

MIMMO61 wrote:Good evening.
I am building a new pc with Ryzen 9 7950X processor



If you are going to need to edit H265 4:2:2 adding an Intel Arc GPU in addition to the Nvidia is probably worth the cost. Only Intel and M1/2 Mac had hardware acceleration for this codec today

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/artic ... udio-2122/

This would do Av1 as well. But I don't see any use for Av1 encoding outside of streaming. And you aren't going to get anything in AV1 to need decode

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